Help On Choosing A Premium 14mm Eye Piece.

[bytor666]

Hi Mark,
Thanks so much for that, I will definitely give that a go! I thought I was the only one that suffered that problem!
Aside from the extended cup which cuts into my eye socket, I also find the fov restricting. So much more comfy for me when I fold it down. Tho others seem to prefer it as it blocks out stray light. The Denkenmeir eyepiece caps are just the most comfy ones I've ever used- they have a sort of rolled rubber which is short, so with the combination of the 20mm ER, you can keep your eye at a good distance and still see the entire fov.

I recently added a brand new XW5mm to my collection!
And I think I'm awfully glad I did- I'm hearing that Lanthanum glass is going to be hard to come by soon and could get very expensive.
I even heard someone say on this forum, they seem to think Pentax XWs will be no more in the future (as they use this rare earth element)?
So I did some homework because I started to get worried!

Hi Suzy,

Big change in eyepiece plans!!! I just sold the 13mm Vixen LVW and I picked up a 14mm Denk! I had it in my scope briefly tonight, as the skies were a bit on the "hazy" side, so a full evaluation wasn't going to happen. From what I did see however, the 14mm Denk barlowed perfectly and held right up in regards to sharpness, etc to my 7mm Pentax XW.

I think the 14mm Denk will be in my eyepiece case for a very long time from what I saw. I'll report back here and drop a link to CN, or leave a report here on the 14mm Denk when I get some better skies.

Cheers,

[Suzy]

Mark's now addicted to the Denks.
Good on you and congratulations on another purchase.
I look forward to hearing about your experiences with 24 Denk. Have you had a chance to try it out properly yet?
Many apologies for taking so long to get back to you, I've had a lot on my plate to deal with lately.

[bytor666]

Hi Suzy,

I made a boo-boo and I meant to say it was the 14mm Denk, as there is no 24mm Denk HAHAHA! I have only had the 14mm Denk out for a spin twice and both times the skies in my backyard were less than ideal. I really need to get it out to a dark sky site where I go with my chums !!! I will report back after I get it and my other eyepieces out there soon....if the skies clear up that is !!!!

One thing I do remember is how easy eye placement is on the 14mm Denk, and it barlows perfectly! When you look down into it with a bright light above you, there is nothing but pitch BLACK when looking into the top lens. The baffling, etc is top notch in the 14mn Denk! I also purchased it because of John and your reports on it.

PS: I got rid of my 38mm Orion Q70 and have a 34mm Explore Scientific 68 degree on the way !!!!!

Cheers,

Hehehe, we almost have the same Ep's LOL!

[Suzy]

Originally Posted by bytor666

Hi Suzy,

I made a boo-boo and I meant to say it was the 14mm Denk, as there is no 24mm Denk HAHAHA!

One thing I do remember is how easy eye placement is on the 14mm Denk, and it barlows perfectly! When you look down into it with a bright light above you, there is nothing but pitch BLACK when looking into the top lens. The baffling, etc is top notch in the 14mn Denk! I also purchased it because of John and your reports on it.

Hehehe, we almost have the same Ep's LOL!

Hi Mark,
Hope you don't mind that I highlight so obviously above, but I really want to draw attention to this.

Yes, eye placement is easy- by far the most comfortable IMO out of all my lenses. HOWEVER! And I made a point about this earlier (if anyone missed it). Terry & I had huge problems with eye placement on our first use. The second session left us scratching our heads with what the big fuss was. I just thought it was Terry and I. Well, I had Shelley over recently and on her first use of it, she couldn't get her eye placement working. And then I realised- I told her about the first light curse of this ep!
I just want to make sure that people aren't put off by their first use of this ep.

Oh yes and the blackness is incredible isn't it Mark.
The pitch black sky shown thru this ep is the first thing I noticed as a huge WOW moment. And then I threw it on 47Tuc and nearly passed out right then and there... Coloured planetary nebulae are just the most awesome thru it as well- blue planetary etc. And as Terry said before, it's very good at picking up faint fuzzies.

Yes, I had a big chuckle when I saw your pic, where like ep twins!
I knew there was a 20 something Denk.out there and I believed your 24mm story. I've just had a look at their website. Okay so it's a 21mm they have, close enough.

[wavelandscott (Scott)]

The 21 mm is very good but in my opinion not quite the equal of the 14 mm as a single eyepiece. But in a Binoviewer the 21 is quite enjoyable and very comfy to use. With just a smidge more magnification than the 24 Panoptic, the 21 mm hits a good place for me. I would not hesitate to recommend the Denks...

[bytor666]

Hi Mark,
Hope you don't mind that I highlight so obviously above, but I really want to draw attention to this.

Yes, eye placement is easy- by far the most comfortable IMO out of all my lenses. HOWEVER! And I made a point about this earlier (if anyone missed it). Terry & I had huge problems with eye placement on our first use. The second session left us scratching our heads with what the big fuss was. I just thought it was Terry and I. Well, I had Shelley over recently and on her first use of it, she couldn't get her eye placement working. And then I realized- I told her about the first light curse of this ep!
I just want to make sure that people aren't put off by their first use of this ep.

Oh yes and the blackness is incredible isn't it Mark.
The pitch black sky shown thru this ep is the first thing I noticed as a huge WOW moment. And then I threw it on 47Tuc and nearly passed out right then and there... Colored planetary nebulae are just the most awesome thru it as well- blue planetary etc. And as Terry said before, it's very good at picking up faint fuzzies.

Yes, I had a big chuckle when I saw your pic, where like ep twins!
I knew there was a 20 something Denk.out there and I believed your 24mm story. I've just had a look at their website. Okay so it's a 21mm they have, close enough.

Hi Suzy,

No probs on highlighting that area in a quote!

I think I know as to WHY others have stated tricky eye placement. I tried on purpose to get my eye in on the 14m Denk REALLY CLOSE to the eye lens. upon doing that, the view blacks right out when you do get really close, which is quite easy to do because the lack of a sufficient eye guard, so my take on that is that some will get too close to the eye lens, experience blackouts and write the EP off.

I had good training in this regard because I used to own a 12mm Nagler Type 4 and the eye placement on that EP is very tricky.....so I gained experience in tricky eye placement issues with that.....and now other eyepieces are a walk in the park compared to that one! Yes, the blackness in that EP is indeed incredible! I just need some clear dark skies in order to really get it to shine.....I can't wait to get it out there!

Cheers and clear skies!!!