10 Sure Ways How NOT to Sell me an item on IIS

[cookie8 (Vincent)]

Hey Moderators, could we have a sellers/buyers credit percentage system like eBay does? I buy and sell on this forum a fair bit and it appears the only thing to go with is the no. of post one posted, which is not a fair reflection of one's credibility.

[Octane (Humayun)]

Vincent,

This has been suggested before, but, the idea got knocked on the head. Can't remember why!

H

[iceman (Mike)]

We'll probably move to a proper classifieds/sale system in the future which may have feedback etc.

To the haters in this thread, lighten up. I took it as light-hearted fun, not as gospel and "thou shalt sell this way".

No need to get narky.

[Hagar (Doug)]

Originally Posted by iceman

We'll probably move to a proper classifieds/sale system in the future which may have feedback etc.

To the haters in this thread, lighten up. I took it as light-hearted fun, not as gospel and "thou shalt sell this way".

No need to get narky.

I am sorry you look at it this way Mike but why should I have to follow this blokes rules to sell him something. He has the same rights of refusal as I do as a seller. It's not light hearted fun, it's his dig at anyone who sells in a different manner to the way he does.

It is a sell this way if you want sell to me. Setting his rules for everyone to follow. To hell with that approach. All my goods are sold with photo's, price and detail and I doubt any purchasers are unhappy with their purchases.

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

The one that REALLY urks me is 'pull-out sellers'!

In a Mitsubishi Car Forum I am in, a long standing reputable member was advertising his 99% new Magna shockers at a really good price.
I posted that I will have them and willing to pay his price. I didn't try to talk him down, I was willing to pay his fair price. I needed them.
I sent him a PM and posted in the thread that I will buy them.

He PM'd me back and said that I was 1st and that they were mine.

I PM'd him back asking how he would like me to pay for them. He didn't answer.
After PM'ing him about every 2nd day, and posting in the thread for him to answer me, weeks had gone by!
Oh, he wasn't on holiday or whatever. He was still posting in other threads and selling other items off his car, and receiving thankyou posts from the buyers for his quick delivery of the items

I placed him in the Sellers Feedback thread as a bad seller.
He then answered my PM! (this was almost 2 months later) saying that he had decided to keep the shockers.
But he really didn't see that he needed to let me know.

To Sellers: If you advertise something for sale IT BETTER ACTUALLY BE FOR SALE.

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

Originally Posted by Hagar

I am sorry you look at it this way Mike but why should I have to follow this blokes rules to sell him something. He has the same rights of refusal as I do as a seller. It's not light hearted fun, it's his dig at anyone who sells in a different manner to the way he does.

It is a sell this way if you want sell to me. Setting his rules for everyone to follow. To hell with that approach. All my goods are sold with photo's, price and detail and I doubt any purchasers are unhappy with their purchases.

It looks to me by your methods that you already follow most of the suggestions anyway and they were only suggestions not "RULES" photo's provided and good details I don't think the OP was aiming the list at you in this case.


I tried desperately to buy an item from one seller I offered Paypal but he had no account I thought thats fine not everyone has Paypal so I offered direct transfer no I don't give out Bank details even though I can't do anything except transfer funds into his account with the details I required.

I was expected to send a check/money order or cash which takes time instead of instantly arriving in sellers account I don't know about anyone else but average people don't have checks anymore and it costs me more to send money orders and sending cash is too risky.

The seller wants our money I didn't post a wanted add I was responding to an advertisement of goods for sale and was asked to jump through too many hoops. And then the goods were withdrawn

[Hagar (Doug)]

I do understand what you are saying Warren. With any trading type forum there will always be glitches which must be overcome.
I can honestly say I haven't bought an awfull lot from the forum but I have sold quite a bit of gear from the high end to the low end of pricing and as a general rule found people to be very honest and prepared to put money into my account which in todays climate is quite unusual.

I just find this set of rules or whatever you want to call them to be a very one sided view of a sale process with no regard for the seller, his goods or his end requirements. As I have said a purely self opinionated guide to selling on IIS.

Cheers
Doug

Originally Posted by supernova1965

It looks to me by your methods that you already follow most of the suggestions anyway and they were only suggestions not "RULES" photo's provided and good details I don't think the OP was aiming the list at you in this case.


I tried desperately to buy an item from one seller I offered Paypal but he had no account I thought thats fine not everyone has Paypal so I offered direct transfer no I don't give out Bank details even though I can't do anything except transfer funds into his account with the details I required.

I was expected to send a check/money order or cash which takes time instead of instantly arriving in sellers account I don't know about anyone else but average people don't have checks anymore and it costs me more to send money orders and sending cash is too risky.

The seller wants our money I didn't post a wanted add I was responding to an advertisement of goods for sale and was asked to jump through too many hoops. And then the goods were withdrawn

[Gem (Grant)]

I understand people's concerns... but some "average" people still use cheques. Not everyone is completely electronic. I can see both sides on that issue.

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

Originally Posted by Gem

I understand people's concerns... but some "average" people still use cheques. Not everyone is completely electronic. I can see both sides on that issue.

A check book is considered an extra now and you have to pay to use them where as bank transfers are free. I can even do it from my home computer within minitues of agreeing to buy.

And Doug even if someone said they would transfer money and didn't you wouldn't send the goods until you had confirmed the money was in your account.

[Allan_L (Allan)]

Originally Posted by Hagar

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I just find this set of rules or whatever you want to call them to be a very one sided view of a sale process with no regard for the seller, his goods or his end requirements. As I have said a purely self opinionated guide to selling on IIS.
Cheers
Doug

Sorry to have upset you Hagar.
But of course it is a very self opinionated list...As the title says, it is things that effect me when buying. It was never meant to be a do this or else.

But seriously, as a Seller, these are things I try to consider when listing an item, if possible.
And from responses it seems a few people think similarly.

But I am interested which one(s) you consider to be unfair to a seller?

Thanks,
and Again I am sorry if my politically incorrect humour offends anyone.

[FlashDrive (Poppy)]

Some time ago, I listed a small Apo Refractor here on IIS. One member practicality " begged " me to keep it for him ... even sent 2 messages to me... stating he would DEFINITELY come around and pick it up and pay for it. On the first day .... he didn't show .... on the 2nd day he said he would come over. .. guess what ...." a no show again " .... so I waited 1 more day... and never heard from him since ..... and to this day ... still haven't.

I still remember who he is ..... and he has logged on since that " time wasting" exercise he put me through.... I will ignore any messages he sends regarding any items I may have listed here. A complete idiot and time waster.

I am sure other IIS Members have dealt with this kind of individual to.

Anyway ... that's my gripe for the day .... I feel better now that I got this off my chest.
Seriously ... we don't need this people....!!

[MortonH]

What annoys me is that I never have any money buy some of the fantastic equipment sold here...

...except for right now cos I just sold a bunch of stuff, and now I don't know what I want or can't find what I think I want!

Morton

[Jules76 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by cookie8

Hey Moderators, could we have a sellers/buyers credit percentage system like eBay does? I buy and sell on this forum a fair bit and it appears the only thing to go with is the no. of post one posted, which is not a fair reflection of one's credibility.

One idea I've seen on another forum is that users have taken the initiative to post the username on their signature of people they have had "sucessfull trades" with. It's quite a good idea I think because those users can then act as references if need be to see if they are a good seller/buyer. Only downfall though is that you then rely on waiting to hear back from their "references" as opposed to an Ebay type system where you can read feedback straight away.

[GraemeT (Graeme)]

Might I add: "Don't know what you have for sale."
A seller offered just what I wanted, several emails went back and forth confirming that the item was as originally described, I drove 60km with cash in my pocket to find that the scope was nothing like the description. The seller had seen some words and decided that they looked good - they did - and he used them, not only in the ad but in the confirmation emails.

[GeoffW1 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by FlashDrive

Some time ago, I listed a small Apo Refractor here on IIS. One member practicality " begged " me to keep it for him ... even sent 2 messages to me... stating he would DEFINITELY come around and pick it up and pay for it. On the first day .... he didn't show .... on the 2nd day he said he would come over. .. guess what ...." a no show again " .... so I waited 1 more day... and never heard from him since ..... and to this day ... still haven't.

I still remember who he is ..... and he has logged on since that " time wasting" exercise he put me through.... I will ignore any messages he sends regarding any items I may have listed here. A complete idiot and time waster.

Ummm well....... Deception Bay.......

Sorry, sorry, could not resist

[FlashDrive (Poppy)]

Originally Posted by GeoffW1

Ummm well....... Deception Bay.......

Sorry, sorry, could not resist

Yeah .... Good one Geoff .... I'll pay that one .... .... !!!

[stephenb (Stephen)]

Originally Posted by kinetic

and how's this little corker for irony.....

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...46&postcount=3

Ive read it all now! That's the pot calling the kettle "sooty bum" isn't it?

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Originally Posted by kinetic

and how's this little corker for irony.....

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...46&postcount=3

unbelievable!

[Octane (Humayun)]

I think that is the finest example of ironic poetry in motion I've ever seen.

H

Originally Posted by kinetic

and how's this little corker for irony.....

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...46&postcount=3

[PeterM]

Allan, I tips my hat to your humor. I love it and it is pretty well spot on.
But who really cares, we are all here to screw the best price when selling or buying, I do it and if anyone here reckons they don't....... bollocks!
PeterM.