Is it ok to alert the site of a potential bargain?

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Originally Posted by AstroGuy

I tend to differ, according to advances in technology they have up'd there standards, and they are generous enough to pass on the savings. But that's just my point-of-view of course.


Regards...

Fine, go buy one then!

You argue every friggin point we make coz you seem to know better than us on everything, so why we need to bother answering any more is beyond me.

We answer your questions or suggestions from experience but that doesn't seem to matter.

[AstroGuy]

Originally Posted by ballaratdragons

Seben are rubbish. End of story.

ballaratdragons,

If I remember right. In keeping with the spirit of the IIS site, Is it not against Site policy to basically trash a company/seller/member this way? Sounds a bit harsh dude.

You take the Fun out of it.



Regards...

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Fine, you won't listen.

Then how about someone who works with them:

Originally Posted by chris lewis

Seben are inferior telescopes. I fix entry level Chinese scopes for a local importer of Chinese scopes here in N.Z. I have had 3x Seben reflectors - 2x 6in. versions - which I sold as they had CLEARLY inferior optics and build qualities - all on a wobbly mount - and an 8 in. Newt. Some of the 6 in. versions and below use the internal barlow [Birds-Jones design] to double the F/L, reduce the inherent aberrations found in spherical mirrors and also enables them to use a 'short tube' design scope. With the 8 in. I replaced the spherical mirror with a GSO parabolic version - with modifications - which made it usable. They are not Synta produced. They came from the 'Fuding Yixiong Co'. [Site below]. They produce most of the entry level scopes you see on E. bay and as sold in departmental stores. The Seben Web site - [Google it] - which is based in Germany but imports these Chinese scopes and renames them and sells them on E. Bay - also advertises model plastic R.C. cars along with its scopes !
Best to avoid.

http://www.yxgx.com/enggsjj.htm

[AstroGuy]

Originally Posted by ballaratdragons

Fine, you won't listen.

Then how about someone who works with them:

Show me a better scope with the same parameters for the same price or better, and prove they are inferior.

Show us the evidence.

Inferior to what?

By the same respect,

I also could say your scope is inferior, not advanced, primitive and low quality, and the person who operates it not advanced or intelligent because they are not as good as the Hubble telescope or the people that operate it.

Unless you can provide a reference point for comparison in your argument I don't see the relevance.

[marki]

I had a seban N 203/1000 navigator II as a first scope, what a pile of rubbish that was, the mount was so weak you couldn't even get and image in the EP that wasn't jumping around all over the place even with the slightest breeze. The optics were shocking with SA plainly evident and strong coma from about 50% FOV. I wouldn't recommend one of these to my worst enemy.

Mark

[AstroGuy]

Originally Posted by marki

I had a seban N 203/1000 navigator II as a first scope, what a pile of rubbish that was, the mount was so weak you couldn't even get and image in the EP that wasn't jumping around all over the place even with the slightest breeze. The optics were shocking with SA plainly evident and strong coma from about 50% FOV. I wouldn't recommend one of these to my worst enemy.

Mark

Sorry to hear that mate but we are not talking about the seban N 203/1000.
I admit their scopes in the past have not exactly pleased many people. I'm talking about the Seben Comet in particular and whether anyone can provide a link to a scope that is better for the price and has the same characteristics. It's easy to say something is this or that, but what are you comparing it to, be realistic.



Regards...

[marki]

Originally Posted by AstroGuy

Sorry to hear that mate but we are not talking about the seban N 203/1000.
I admit their scopes in the past have not exactly pleased many people. I'm talking about the Seben Comet in particular and whether anyone can provide a link to a scope that is better for the price and has the same characteristics. It's easy to say something is this or that, but what are you comparing it to, be realistic.



Regards...

Nah mate, you wont find anything cheaper than that, its a bargin, go for it.

Mark

[AstroGuy]

Originally Posted by marki

Nah mate, you wont find anything cheaper than that, its a bargin, go for it.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Mind you, I was thinking of buying one myself for use as a guidescope. I have since rethought my strategy and decided to use my Celestron 4se to peform the same function. I would actually buy one for this purpose. Alternatively it could make a good spotting scope etc...


Regards...

[AstroGuy]

Originally Posted by ballaratdragons

Fine, go buy one then!

You argue every friggin point we make coz you seem to know better than us on everything, so why we need to bother answering any more is beyond me.

We answer your questions or suggestions from experience but that doesn't seem to matter.

Man, you seem sooooooooo frustrated with this.

I only posted the link, you challenged it as if it were a duel.
.
If you have followed anything I've posted, you will see I have already purchased them. You on the other hand probably have not, so how can you argue the point when you have not even checked one out.

It's hard to figure you out man.




Regards...

[MrB (Simon)]

Realy?
You have made four posts since the post you just quoted was made.
Things get quiet and you got bored so you've gone back to dig up something else to comment on?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

[mswhin63 (Malcolm)]

my first scope was a SEBEN complete waste of money. about the only thing that worked for me was the EQ motor but even that was really sloppy and noisy.