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Old 16-05-2009, 04:40 PM
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Grab and go scope options

Hey, Looking for some advice. I currently own an 8" GSO Dob which is great, except for its size. Now that we've got a little one, I can't have the whole back seat (not to mention half the boot as well) for the telescope when we go away. So I need something smaller as well. I'm thinking of a small refractor on an alt az mount - nothing too complicated or glamarous.

I haven't seen any reviews of the 90mm GSO refractor sold by andrews and Bintel:
https://www.bintelshop.com.au/Product.aspx?ID=7046

Does anyone know about the quality of these especially compared to a skywatcher. It's a tempting scope because I imagine the diagonal is better and it has a 10:1 crayford focuser.

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Old 16-05-2009, 04:56 PM
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What do you plan to do with it ?

It's not an ideal choice IMHO. If you want a small grab & go refractor I'd opt for something in the range f/5-f/7 suitable for rich field views, on an altaz mount.

If you want magnification (moon & planets) and have the budget then I'd go for this http://www.meade.com/etx-ls/index.html
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Old 16-05-2009, 05:22 PM
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The GSO 90mm f11 refractor gets the top rating as a grab-and-go in the book "Astronomy Hacks" by Robert and Barbara Thompson (written in America, packed full of useful info; especially for dob owners). They do make the point about what you want to look at. If it's in an urban setting and you can only grasp the brighter stuff, this scope will do a nice job of high mag on the moon and planets and also pick up the brighter DSOs. They reckon it's better quality than the Skywatcher. If you want a wider, low power field of view, the shorter tube refractors would be better; but they won't do the high mag as well. They also reckon that it is better moved onto an alt-az mount (AZ3) rather than the EQ it comes on. All just their opinion of course...and I'm just passing it on.

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Old 16-05-2009, 05:32 PM
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I'm also looking for a small portable scope.

My selection at the moment is Orion ED80 apochromat on an AltAz mount.

I think the 90mm refractor is cheap and the ED80 gives a better view.

If I can squeeze my budget I would pick the Orion EON 80.

Also for consideration is ED APO 80mm f/6.8 refractor from Andrews. I would like some opinions on this OTA.

My choice is also influenced by the future use for imaging

Looking forward to other comments.
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Old 16-05-2009, 05:46 PM
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skywatcher ed80 pro $700 ish though, nice color (apo), sharp little scope, could image with it one day if you wanted, plus its easily resellable.
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Old 16-05-2009, 06:22 PM
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if you want to save some bucks andrews comm have a 90mm f11 refractor on alt/az for 229 - it is long though - the f5 might be more the go
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Old 17-05-2009, 08:28 PM
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An SCT or an MCT would be the go wouldn't it? Considering refractors are long and usually don't have much aperture. You can't beat a catadioptic for large aperture at a compact size.

I've got a 127mm Mak and it's very portable and I'm very happy with it. I got it for its portability but end up using it all the time at home.
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Old 17-05-2009, 09:29 PM
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An SCT or an MCT would be the go wouldn't it? Considering refractors are long and usually don't have much aperture. You can't beat a catadioptic for large aperture at a compact size.

I've got a 127mm Mak and it's very portable and I'm very happy with it. I got it for its portability but end up using it all the time at home.
There is a great deal with a Skywatcher 127 Mak at camerahousewa.com.au. Close to the price for the mount by itself.
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Old 17-05-2009, 11:20 PM
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I have a Sky Watcher 120mm F5 achro that I think is great.
I use it for general observing and as a guide scope when imaging with the dslr. When I use it with the Gstar, being a mono camera, CA isn't an issue.
For a grab and go mount, I love my iOptrons.
The little goto Cube came along with me to Fiji the other week. It took up very little room in my suitcase. It can run on 8 AA batteries.
The Mini Tower breaks down into two pieces. The head and accessories fit into it's own aluminium carry case and the tripod legs telescope down to around a metre.
It too will run on batteries, but mains is best.

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Old 17-05-2009, 11:43 PM
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For a grab and go mount, I love my iOptrons.
Recon you are right - a cube with a 90mm mak would be a very 'Wife and Baby' friendly scope! Does Ron stil sell them? - couldn't see anything on Sirius Optics site.
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Old 18-05-2009, 12:01 AM
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I received an email from John Hou at iOptron the other day.

"Today I am happy to inform you that we have found a ideal partner in Australia to serve our customers over there. ExtraVision has become our exclusive partner in Australia. As you might be well aware, ExtraVision has represented other well-known telescope brands before. We are confident that with this partnership, amateur astronomers in Australia will not only can buy and receive iOptron products in a timely fashion, but also be served well. "

ExtraVision are located at Murrarie here in Brisbane.

Did you know that my Mini Tower is the first one in Australia? Whoo hoo!
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Old 18-05-2009, 12:19 AM
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[QUOTE=jjjnettie;445271]I have a Sky Watcher 120mm F5 achro that I think is great.
I use it for general observing and as a guide scope when imaging with the dslr. When I use it with the Gstar, being a mono camera, CA isn't an issue.

I agree with jjjnettie. I also have Skywatcher 120mm F5 achromat and for its price and if used for mono imagining it is great.
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Old 18-05-2009, 12:34 AM
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I have a Sky Watcher 120mm F5 achro that I think is great.
I use it for general observing and as a guide scope when imaging with the dslr. When I use it with the Gstar, being a mono camera, CA isn't an issue.
For a grab and go mount, I love my iOptrons.
The little goto Cube came along with me to Fiji the other week. It took up very little room in my suitcase. It can run on 8 AA batteries.
The Mini Tower breaks down into two pieces. The head and accessories fit into it's own aluminium carry case and the tripod legs telescope down to around a metre.
It too will run on batteries, but mains is best.
I am too lazy to look it up myself...can you tell me how heavy your Skywatcher 120 is?

Thanks...
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Old 18-05-2009, 01:03 AM
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Heres my aperture rules grab n go
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Old 18-05-2009, 07:50 AM
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I am too lazy to look it up myself...can you tell me how heavy your Skywatcher 120 is?

Thanks...
It's just under 9lb as I remember.
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Old 18-05-2009, 09:13 AM
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It's just under 9lb as I remember.
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Old 26-05-2009, 05:48 PM
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Just bought my 'Grab&Go Scope'!
I had to decide between SW Black diamond 80ED and Long Perng ED80 APO.
The mechanical build and quality of the Long Perng I thought superior to the SW product, so LP I bought.

So far I'm very happy with my purchase, the finish is beautiful and I hope that the optical performance is up to the same quality!
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Old 27-05-2009, 02:11 AM
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Just bought my 'Grab&Go Scope'!
I had to decide between SW Black diamond 80ED and Long Perng ED80 APO.
The mechanical build and quality of the Long Perng I thought superior to the SW product, so LP I bought.

So far I'm very happy with my purchase, the finish is beautiful and I hope that the optical performance is up to the same quality!
Hi Jakob,

Congrats on the new scope! I was in the shop on Saturday when you bought it! Didn't know who you were of course. I'm sure it will give you many great views.

BTW, what mount is that you have it on?

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Old 27-05-2009, 09:03 AM
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Hi Jakob,

Congrats on the new scope! I was in the shop on Saturday when you bought it! Didn't know who you were of course. I'm sure it will give you many great views.

BTW, what mount is that you have it on?

Nick.
Thanks Nick!

No mount yet. I'm thinking of the AltAz mount from Bintel, it looks sturdy and has slow motion control. (looks the same as GSO SkyView ATZ)

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