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Old 04-01-2009, 09:12 PM
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Just come back from a 4 1/2 hour run up the Hume H'way in NSW. My speedo is 5 km above true speed. I've known this since I bought the Starwagon. Who cares ! It has probably saved me heaps in fines. That few minutes later you get there is well worth it if it saves you $$$$'s. On a run that long speeding will probably save you 20 mins max. The one that made time made a lot of it ( and you get there in one piece)

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I hope you didn't spend too much time in the right hand lane.

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I tend to avoid speeding, even by a small amount, as IMO ending up wasting $165 or more of ya hard earned on something completely avoidable is silly.
I hope you never travel in the right hand lane.

BTW, I don't think anyone was advocating exceeding the speed limit, merely traveling at the speed limit.

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Old 04-01-2009, 09:21 PM
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most of the time here in Aus there isn't a right hand lane to travel in
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:30 PM
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Usually if there is one in Melbourne there's a truck or caravan in it :-(
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Old 04-01-2009, 09:44 PM
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Nope. I travel in the lefthand lane. Only go into the right one when overtaking. Those are the rules I believe I'm not yer Sunday driver, used to do 50 - 80,000 a year. Only copped 2 speeding fines in 30 years, and they were because of inattention. Only ever dented 2 vehicles ( and I've had about 12 in Aus including company ones). The speed limit is the max you are allowed to do, nothing says you have to. Common sense (not so common) says you drive at the safest speed conditions and your vehicle allows. In the UK you can be done for driving dangerously and be well under the speed limit. Should be universal. Speed, in the wrong place, DOES kill.


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Old 04-01-2009, 09:45 PM
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What needs to be done is link Adelaide - Melbourne - Sydney - Brisbane with 4 lane freeway and have it at 130kmh
Very true.. sadly it needed to be finished 20 years back.. federal and state govts of all leanings regarding road funding .. imo.. are fixed on traffic congestion within metro areas where the votes are... the serious and fatal accidents around the pacific hwy on the north coast in recent years are staggering .. its almost daily of late .. despite an incredibly small population.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:08 PM
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Very true.. sadly it needed to be finished 20 years back.. federal and state govts of all leanings regarding road funding .. imo.. are fixed on traffic congestion within metro areas where the votes are... the serious and fatal accidents around the pacific hwy on the north coast in recent years are staggering .. its almost daily of late .. despite an incredibly small population.

The Pacific highway is a sad joke. It must revert between single lane and dual lane no less than 20 times.

And to think that the nation's 2 biggest cities aren't even linked by a full freeway yet is just mind boggling.

Even some of the freeways in urban areas are shocking. Take Melbourne's Calder freeway between Keilor and Diggers rest - No shoulders, 80kmh limit, at-grade intersections.... and you should see the epic bus stop fails along the so called freeway

The Hume at Kalkallo and the Western hwy out at Rockbank and around Ballarat have intersections and propertly access. These should've been removed as part of the Craigieburn and Deer Park bypass projects. The Princes "Freeway" between pakenham and Tralalgon even has traffic lights in addition to the 20 or so at grade intersections Outragous!!!!!

AND what's this recent obsession with using that gravelly stuff for pavement that is louder than a 747 when driven upon?

Road infrastructure here is appauling at best. Maybe the pollies and Vicroads, RTA etc should pay a visit to the USA and Europe to see how it's done!
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:19 PM
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I checked our old car, a Ford EA station wagon, and its speedo was reading 100 when it was actually doing 98 km/h. I don't mind that amount and I had a bit of a hunch because of some of the radar units that display speed near Melbourne. My gripe is that it shouldn't be a difference of about 5 km/h at 100 (5%).

I believe that if you choose to speed then you have to be prepared to pay the fine but wouldn't it be nice to actually be allowed to make the choice. When it comes to driving the best thing that I'd like to see more of is consideration - bit old fashioned i guess. Let faster drivers room to overtake etc. The thing that annoyed me most on the recent trip was drivers who travel at 85 km/h on the road but speed up to 110 on double lanes so barely anyone can pass.
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Old 04-01-2009, 10:29 PM
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Very true.. sadly it needed to be finished 20 years back.. federal and state govts of all leanings regarding road funding .. imo.. are fixed on traffic congestion within metro areas where the votes are... the serious and fatal accidents around the pacific hwy on the north coast in recent years are staggering .. its almost daily of late .. despite an incredibly small population.
Doesn't that tell you something ? Its not the road thats the problem, its the drivers, driving outwith the conditions. OK its probably not the best of roads (never been on it) But upgrading it too a smooth highway of 130km/hr isn't going to make a whit of difference. People will still die, just that the crashes will be more horrific due to the higher speeds. There is a limit to the cognitive and reaction time of the human species, and the faster you go the closer you get to that limit. Some of us are better than others (race drivers etc) but 99.9% of the human race is way below that level.
What is this problem with getting there faster ? Stop being ruled by the clock, we invented it, but not to be led by it.

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Old 04-01-2009, 10:31 PM
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Speed, in the wrong place, DOES kill.
Actually it's the sudden stop at the end that kills.

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