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Old 26-09-2007, 07:18 PM
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Windows vista.

Just found this and it is just sooo funny but horribly tru.
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Old 26-09-2007, 08:46 PM
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Love it, but definitely true.
Unfortunately so. I had it on one machine for about 24 hours. The install disks are parked on a shelf in the shed waiting for the service packs to fix the useless thing. Total pain in the nether regions.
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Old 26-09-2007, 09:16 PM
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Hi Martin, I'm running my around 90% of my astro-software with no problems at all on my laptop. My DSI II Pro was a bit niggly at first but that turned out to be a need for a powered hub and not Vista at all.

I still do my processing on my XP server but that's because it has a CRT monitor which I find way better than the LCD screen.

Still loved the cartoon though.

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Old 26-09-2007, 09:20 PM
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You can chuck Office 2007 in the Vista Bin as well. What a useless piece of Junk.
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Old 26-09-2007, 09:28 PM
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Talking Mac OS

switch to Mac OS X and all your windows probems will be a ting of the past
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Old 26-09-2007, 09:32 PM
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Hi Paul, I'm still on Office 2000

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Old 26-09-2007, 10:47 PM
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switch to Mac OS X and all your windows probems will be a ting of the past
Funny isn't it - each new version of OS X actually improves your experience/productivity, and runs faster than the previous - on 5 year old hardware.....
The switch is not as painful as you may think!
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Old 26-09-2007, 10:55 PM
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mmmm ... vista on my new laptop

Virtual moon wont close down
Desktop universe shows error codes when closed
No help 32 files work
No drivers for webcam
No drivers for usb adapter (must check)
Photo explorer dont work.
canon remote window non functional.
had it for like no time and 70meg of updates available that need to be installed.

just cart up the desktop computer to the observatory ... yep xp
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Old 27-09-2007, 08:12 AM
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mmmm ... vista on my new laptop

Virtual moon wont close down
Desktop universe shows error codes when closed
No help 32 files work
No drivers for webcam
No drivers for usb adapter (must check)
Photo explorer dont work.
canon remote window non functional.
had it for like no time and 70meg of updates available that need to be installed.

just cart up the desktop computer to the observatory ... yep xp
Funny cartoon

Just an observation - maybe the vendors, whose software you have chosen to use, should get off their collective butts and fix their own offerings. Vista has been around for a couple of years now - and these guys most likely had early access to alpha and beta versions as most developers do. it has not been hidden from them. They have had ample opportunity to develop new drivers and to test and update their applications, and yet have obviously failed to do so for people like you - their users. There should be no excuse they can offer as to why they haven't done it. It is not entirely MS's fault that you are in this position - and although the last company I usually defend is MS, I feel that they are being unfairly blamed for creating what I've found so far (in the year that I've had it) - a far better operating system than XP in every respect. I run it on my desktop and tablet PC's and rarely, if ever, do they collapse on my machines like XP used to.

I guess that we all have our own experiences with it - mine has been good. For once MS has given us an OS that i've found to work seamlessly and easily with all of my Linux/Unix & OSX servers and desktops. They seem to be learning that cooperation is a good thing.

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Old 27-09-2007, 08:52 AM
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The biggest problem is that Microsoft pumps out operating systems that needs faster computers and more memory.
The other problem is the loading time, if you just have an fresh install then it runs fine.
After installing a couple of programs it starts running slower and slower.
Booting up takes longer and longer and after a week running you have to reboot again.
Everytime you install a new piece of hardware or software you have to hope for the best and hope the program doesnt require you to install something else so it can run.
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Old 27-09-2007, 09:06 AM
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The biggest problem is that Microsoft pumps out operating systems that needs faster computers and more memory.
No problem with that - I think that it's now becoming a relatively moot point. Moore's Law has ensured that the processing power to cost ratio has tumbled incredibly over time. Computing power has never been as cheap or plentiful as it now is. Given this, why NOT use the power on offer?
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Old 27-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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No problem with that - I think that it's now becoming a relatively moot point. Moore's Law has ensured that the processing power to cost ratio has tumbled incredibly over time. Computing power has never been as cheap or plentiful as it now is. Given this, why NOT use the power on offer?
Simple.
I don't want to pay for more hardware when the stuff I already have does what I want with no problems. My son keeps hassling me that "we" need a more powerful computer so he can play some new game that then hogs my computer. He has a long time to wait.
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Old 27-09-2007, 09:47 AM
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What Terry says is true, why would we have to go out and buy the fastest computer just because the operating system or game demands it?
The developers go over board with millions of lines of code what i call laziness, all because they dont have to optimize the code because people will buy a faster computer anyway.
In a while we need a computer that needs 15Tb of memory and runs at 1000Ghz just to play halo10, and i am not even talking about the harddrive space you will need.
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Old 27-09-2007, 09:54 AM
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I was dragged yelling and screaming into XP just late last year ...there is no way I am getting involved with Vi$ta until the sevice packs are up to it.
I like linux as a system for most use but use Micro$oft for some things that I can't get to work with linux
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Old 27-09-2007, 09:54 AM
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What Terry says is true, why would we have to go out and buy the fastest computer just because the operating system or game demands it?
What is making you go out and get another operating system for your current box? Your current machine won't last forever, so when you finally update you'll benefit from the extra power when you buy the new one.

I'm a development manager - so I fully understand "lazy" developers. I take great pains in making my guys write efficient code. It's the era of the API (app programming interface) - which is a modular way of building an application via building blocks. It is a cost-effective way to do things - unlike writing code from scratch each and every time. It delivers inefficient (somethimes) code, but at least is affordable in this day and age where apprentice programmers expect $100k off the bat.
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Old 27-09-2007, 10:40 AM
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Here are some of the Astro-software that I have loaded onto my laptop with Vista. They all start and run perfectly

Star Atlas Pro
Registax V4
PixInsight
Meade Autostar Suite
MaximDL V4.6

My DSI II Pro runs without a hitch. The only problem I have is that my LPI doesn't work as it needs a driver from Meade and they are the ones who are dragging the ball and chain.

In my experience I haven't had any dramas with Vista at all.

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Old 27-09-2007, 12:19 PM
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My Sinclair Spectrum (1985?) is still running fine with its original opertating system with no need to worry about patches.

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Old 27-09-2007, 01:03 PM
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My daughter just bought a new laptop and the vista OS looks like a nice piece of work.

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Old 27-09-2007, 03:29 PM
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Hi All,

I got Vista with a new Dell laptop in late Feb this year just a few months after it was released. I asked for XP (pleaded actually) but no dice -- Vista or no sale. I was assured it would all be okay.

They told me lies.

I had two months of unmitigated heartache. The program they supply to drain everything over from old to new wouldn't work (Easy share ? -- what a misnomer!). The Beta version of that application didn't work either. It only worked with US based PCs. It had an _expert_ IT guy completely baffled. We ended up doing things the old fashioned way with DVDs and a cross-over cable.

Megastar loaded fine.

Deepsky (database/logbook/mapping application) had all sorts of issues that took 3 weeks to resolve before it would load and run.

Wouldn't load Realsky CDs at all (legit authorised version) -- just refused to read 'em. Had to drain all those data files over from another PC with a cross-over cable.

Refused to speak with the epson printer/scanner (driver probs). Driver for the Dell installed DVD burner had a conflict as well.

Several of the other Dell installed applications refused to work with it and caused it to crash. It cost 8 weeks of heartache to sort 90% of the issues out by which time Dell realised it had a serious problem and then gave people the choice once more to run XP -- too late for me.

It was a 100% pain in the you know what. Now works quite well but, what a hassle!

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Old 27-09-2007, 03:41 PM
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You didn't go with Dell, did you!

There's your problem right there: vendor-specific hardware!

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