They say we're Overweight

[erick (Eric)]

With all my situps/crunches and all that, I'm sure I've got a great sixpack - it's just very well insulated!

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

As a kid I was one of those super skinny, fast-running sports freaks. Swimming, Judo, Rugby Union, Track & Field, Cross Country, etc.
As I got older, I was around 8 stone as a teenager and adult. Then about 15 years ago I decided to stop drinking coffee to see if it helped rid me of migraines. Instead of Coffee, I switched to Milo, and packed the pounds on!!!

I went off the Milo about 3 months later and have not been able to get rid of the excess since. I am usually very active. I walk a lot, run around coaching Rugby League to kids, until 2 years ago I played in the Touch Rugby Comp, I still run around the paddocks playing footy with my boys etc etc. And yet it still won't go! I am still around 11 stone. So it isn't always a case of sitting in front of a computer that does it. I am still active and still putting weight on. I eat healthy meals and rarely eat junk food.

[rogerg (Roger)]

Originally Posted by ving

we could go for a walk during lunch instead of posting here

Well, not really... as much as I wish I had time at lunch to go for a walk, I don't want to walk and eat, where as posting on IIS and eating are compatible activities

Oh, and I could make the time to go for a walk at lunch, but then I'd be leaving work 30mins later instead, so wouldn't actually get any more exercise in, would just shift it around..

[DJDD]

we are not overweight at all.
the "kilo" is getting lighter!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09..._loses_weight/

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

Originally Posted by rogerg

Work. The sooner humans realise they weren't meant to sit on the one chair continuously for 8 hours a day the sooner we get rid of many health issues including weight and stress.

I hope one day I can find a working situation that allows 3-4 days sitting in an office and 1-2 days doing physical work. It just isn't right sitting in an office all day. We need to move!

I had a job like that until I retired in November last year. Spend a bit of time in the office at the screen and take off to a site and get the hands dirty pretty much when I wanted to. Kept the weight down, although I usually hovered around the 70 - 72 Kilos. Since I retired gone to about 75 kilo's, but quite happy with it.

[Ric]

Originally Posted by sailormoon

Good luck to u Ric, hope i didn't insult u in any way.

Don't worry Sailormoon, I didn't take offence in any way, it's a very interesting thread.

Cheers

[sailormoon]

Originally Posted by rogerg

Work. The sooner humans realise they weren't meant to sit on the one chair continuously for 8 hours a day the sooner we get rid of many health issues including weight and stress.

I hope one day I can find a working situation that allows 3-4 days sitting in an office and 1-2 days doing physical work. It just isn't right sitting in an office all day. We need to move!

Very true, technology has definitely played a big role in that as well. Lifestyles has definitely changed over the years. I cant stand office jobs its just way too boring.

What are the leading weightloss companies around?

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by sailormoon

Well according to this commercial and a news stories, Australians are overweight. Do u think its true? cause i ever see them around on the streets and its a shame because we're a great outdoors country. What do u think are the contributing factors that caused Australians to be overweight?

Soft chairs , soft food, soft character, soft personal discipline and soft personal self worth.

alex

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

[quote=xelasnave;254077]Soft chairs , soft food, soft character, soft personal discipline and soft personal self worth.

alex[/quot
I'd agree with the first two Alex, but debate the other three. I've found most Aussies I've met are no worse than anywhere else in the world on those scores.

[slice of heaven]

I love the Subway ad with the modern twist on "You are what you eat"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxqRg2Nohso

[matt]

[quote=Glenhuon;254224]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Soft chairs , soft food, soft character, soft personal discipline and soft personal self worth.

alex[/quot
I'd agree with the first two Alex, but debate the other three. I've found most Aussies I've met are no worse than anywhere else in the world on those scores.

I tend to agree with Alex, on all scores.

No, we're no worse on those other scores, but we're also no better. Hence we're as fat as just about any other nation which has a weight 'problem'.

It would be foolish to deny personal discipline plays a part in many cases of obesity. Not all, but many. And those other 'scores' are linked to each other.

At 100kg and 5'11", I'm about 15kg over what I should be, and I have only myself to blame for it. No excuses...no pointing the finger elsewhere. I ate the wrong food too often, enjoyed myself a little too much on the booze front, and did bugger all exercise even though I could have found the time.

That's all changing... 85kg here I come!!!

[DJDD]

just changing diet a little can help.

It's not rocket science, really.
alex's comments are on the money- the message is out there but not many are listening.

i lost 8 kg (down from 77 kg) by simply:

- cutting out snack foods
- cutting back on sugar in my tea/coffee (from two teaspoons to none or one)
- eating two pieces of fruit per day instead of biscuits at work (fruit is not that expensive and in long run much cheaper than hospital bills)
- eating more veges and fish at dinner, less meat/chicken and cutting back my portion of rice and pasta (to about 1/2 or 2/3)
- no desserts (or one a week)

and that weight loss was purely the small changes i made, not large ones, and i imagine more exercise would help.

actually, i ate less when my wife was away for three months- we tend to cook more elaborate meals together and when she was away i just made it easy for myself ("baching" it... )

anyway, i will put my soapbox away.

DJDD

[sailormoon]

Originally Posted by Glenhuon

No, we're no worse on those other scores, but we're also no better. Hence we're as fat as just about any other nation which has a weight 'problem'.

It would be foolish to deny personal discipline plays a part in many cases of obesity. Not all, but many. And those other 'scores' are linked to each other.

At 100kg and 5'11", I'm about 15kg over what I should be, and I have only myself to blame for it. No excuses...no pointing the finger elsewhere. I ate the wrong food too often, enjoyed myself a little too much on the booze front, and did bugger all exercise even though I could have found the time.

That's all changing... 85kg here I come!!!

What scale did u use to judge if you were overweight or not? I think some of those out there are fairly inaccurate.

Good luck in losing the kgs!

[xelasnave]

[QUOTE=Glenhuon;254224]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Soft chairs , soft food, soft character, soft personal discipline and soft personal self worth.

alex[/quot
I'd agree with the first two Alex, but debate the other three. I've found most Aussies I've met are no worse than anywhere else in the world on those scores.

There is no debate as I agree...

I heard on the radio ..so it must be right... that for every dollar spent on adds to promote a "good food" product there be $500 spent on adds for a "junk food" product... so on the positive that must mean it is hard to get folk to eat "junk food" otherwise why would they have to spend so much more to promote it???

A stroll around the super market shows the shelves packed with so much junk food I can imagine the temptation is just too great for so many... but with so many things that offer instant gratification I suggest they do more harm than good...

I see the check out counters and notice that many folk take home as much junk food as once one only saw at a xmas party, so there is a market.

We have a show..tv entertainment.. that shows "losers" now as heroes and I laugh to myself what folk may eat when sitting in front of the box.

Gluttony and greed are sins of the worst kind as they add dangerous weight to the body but take much from the character.

And so concludes today's sermon Let us all bow our heads in a big bowl of chips

alex

[Ric]

I know what you mean about the supermarkets Alex, as a diabetic I would only find around 30% of what is on the shelves is suitable for me and it's usually placed out of the way as it's not their fast turnover items.

The fresh fruit, veges and meat are not included in this just the shelf items. Sure makes it hard sometimes when you can't have sugar or certain types of fat.

Cheers

[xelasnave]

So many things come down to ones opinion of self.

Self image is very important and often if our self image is low that belief finds physical reality.

It is so easy to lose weight... just look in the mirror each day and say ..wow I am getting thinner...

Now often that may be a lie but the good old mind we have will work to meet the self image we suggest... and that simple self talk comes to the front when we find ourselves rejecting stuff that our mind knows will not enable us to be the person we tell ourselves we are..

It is so simple folk don't try this way but it works better than anything else as it provides an internal motivation that silently guides our decisions.

I feel very sorry for those who are fat..(.lets call a spade a spade for a start.. using the word obese is a major cop out )...for it often gives an insight to their internal personal grief and lack of self worth.

So many things come down to a healthy self image and acceptance of the good and the bad without personal judgement and the often associated guilt.

Our society says booze is OK and it is in moderation yet so many drink every day... they don't run hot cars on the stuff because it is low on energy contribution...so why is it a surprise a daily booze habit will see you fatter than without.

AND how do I know all this ... well from the experience of all my mistakes in life... and so I find it is easy to be expert in so many areas.

Oh if I could have the money and more important the time wasted to create a drunken haze where reality is dulled and stupidity substituted as being more acceptable.

Oh if I could have the money I wasted on dinners at restaurants where one pays many fold the cost of providing energy for the body.

On your death bed you will not worry about the days you missed in the office you will think about the waste of time and energy devoted to gluttony and self indulgence.

alex

[matt]

Well said...er...written, Alex

You are most certainly correct about the power of the mind and the potential for 'training it' to live/perceive a different reality. An unfortunately all-too-often unexplored potential.

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by matt

Well said...er...written, Alex

You are most certainly correct about the power of the mind and the potential for 'training it' to live/perceive a different reality. An unfortunately all-too-often unexplored potential.

Thank you Matt and all who have seen a little truth in my observations.

Self talk is very important in fact I rate it as the most important thing we do.
I have been working to produce different outcomes for some folk who on the face of it were doing everything right in their businesses but something was wrong..
Without going on and on lets me offer one example of a big problem solved simply with positive self talk (er maybe two)..

The owner was frustrated that the business was demanding so much time.
I noted his self talk was ..
"there are never enough hours in the day".
I insisted that be changed to..
"I always have time for the important things."

The change in time management was noticeable within a week, stress changed and more stuff got done..

The first statement offered no happy future and generated guilt and a belief that the business was inefficient etc etc..

Another to get rid of...

"You have to spend money to make money"

substitute with

"There are many things I can do to improve opportunities which cost nothing"

the first you wait until spending money on a promotion the second sees you calling established customers etc.

Think of the stupid things we tell ourselves which work so hard to work against us .. we all have them and they often stuff our chances of changing for the better.

Hope these ideas help someone
alex

[sailormoon]

Been finding your postings a great read Alex. But i don't think feeling sorry for the overweight people is gonna help Australia's image much, where the majority believes that its okay to be eating unhealthy and being overweight as long as their living happily..

im gonna enjoy my krispy kreme

[brethren]

Being a country of spectators is partly to blame as well. Up in the stands, drunken yobbos scream and shout all they want, its actually quite funny. Anyway, it'll take a combined effort from governments, schools and families to get over the overweight epidemic, something that i dont see happening