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Old 14-08-2007, 08:59 PM
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ED80 and FR comparisons.

During my week at Duckadang I spent most of my imaging time trying out the WO Flattener/Reducer 0.8x reducer/ff v. II and my WO 1:10 retrofit for WO Synta & Newton Crayford Focusers .

I have had the focuser for a while now and love it. It makes critical focusing so much easier than the standard ED80 focuser.

The Focal Reducer is a new addition. I have used the ED80 without a reducer and with the Meade 6.3 SCT reducer. While on it's own the refractor does an acceptable job of imaging with not too much distortion in the corners, but at f/7.5 it is a bit slow. Adding the Meade 6.3 speeds the scope up to f/4.7, but introduces objectionable distortion in the corners.

After seeing the WO reducer advertised at a very reasonable price I though I would give it a try and see what happens. Well I was very pleasantly surprise. The 0.8X reducer and flattener does a very good job of not just reducing the f ration to an acceptable f/6, but the image is quite sharp with minimal distortion right out to the edges and corners.

The attached image shows in the left pane the effects in the corners of the Meade 6.3 reducer and no fine focuser. The stars are drawn out into triangles from the outer 2/3 - 3/4 of the image. The center of the image (not shown) is acceptable.

The center pane shows the standard ED80 without reducer and without fine focuser. While the stars are not sharply focused the distortion is not excessive, but it is still obvious. The center of the image when focused sharply is fine.

The right pane shows the effects of using a WO focal reducer and the fine focuser. There is just no comparison. The effects on star quality is obvious. I am very happy with the results.

Please remember that this is not a objective assessment. I have only picked the corners of three seperate images taken over a period of time. They are not even of the same area of the sky or processed similarly. The only similarities are that they were all taken on an Orion ED80 using a Canon 300D mounted and autoguided on a Losmandy G11 and focused using DSLR Focus. I may at some time do a more rigourous tests but it hardly seems worth it considering these results.

BTW, I have looked at other less expensive 10:1 focusers and they are not in the same league as the WO. The three I did look at had unacceptable free movement in the fine focuser, while the WO fine focuser was direct with not flexure or delay in action. I noticed a considerable difference in their actions.
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Old 14-08-2007, 09:11 PM
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Thanks for the info Paul.

I havn't had the chance to test my WO Flattener 11 as yet with the SW ED-80, your results look rather promising.

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Old 15-08-2007, 07:12 AM
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Looks good Paul. Wanna try the AP67 one I have? It may be good to have an all encompassing trial?
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Old 15-08-2007, 07:46 AM
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Sounds like a plan Gary. I've been thinking that I should redo the trial on the same object on the same night to really make it valid.
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Old 15-08-2007, 10:32 AM
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OK, let me cogitate on this, I am away to Europe for 6 weeks from next weekend, so it could be while I am away?
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Old 15-08-2007, 12:51 PM
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NP. If you are happy to send it over I can do some testing over the next month and get it back to you by the time you get back
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Old 15-08-2007, 05:56 PM
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OK, will do. It would be good for the wider knowledge base as well.
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Old 15-08-2007, 06:59 PM
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I might even see about getting hold of the WO III to compare as well if it isn't too expensive
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Old 15-08-2007, 07:20 PM
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I think Robber Beck has one, and if he is happy the two Kiwi contestants could take a break in the Gold Coast, short term of course.
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Old 15-08-2007, 07:43 PM
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Old 17-08-2007, 03:40 PM
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The boomerang is on its way Ponders. I'll leave you to pry the Robbers from him, although he tells me it isn't a reducer, merely a flattener.
Give me a squeek when it arrives perhaps.
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Old 17-08-2007, 03:59 PM
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