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Old 15-02-2022, 11:00 PM
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Uh Oh....

Seems Europe really is in for a spat as Putin has moved his boat to avoid any problematic confiscations....

Riddle me this: how does a politician paid by the public purse (about $US300k ) get to own a $73 million dollar super yacht ?

That's about 243 years of saving your whole wage.....funny how this wealth disparity is not being picked up by the tabloids.
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Old 16-02-2022, 07:49 AM
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Hi Peter
I suspect he may have been left money by a rich uncle.
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Old 16-02-2022, 08:28 AM
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I suspect he may have been left money by a rich uncle.
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indeed, according to Vlad , the boat is only a tinny....
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Old 16-02-2022, 08:41 AM
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Sorry..I tried to put up a video but it is not working
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Old 16-02-2022, 08:46 AM
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Old 16-02-2022, 02:28 PM
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Don't forget Putin's $1.4 Billion USD palace on the Black Sea coast:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin%27s_Palace

https://www.therichest.com/luxury-ar...llar-compound/
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Old 16-02-2022, 09:28 PM
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You know you guys have just put yourself on the hit list even for mentioning his asset collection.
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Old 16-02-2022, 11:46 PM
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You know you guys have just put yourself on the hit list even for mentioning his asset collection.
Nah. I registered using someone else's address (sorry Lewis).
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Old 17-02-2022, 06:03 AM
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After the Bahamas(?) bank leaks a few year ago, they put Putin at around 200 billion I thought. Biden has around 9billion...

Glad to see them serving their countries so diligently....
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Old 17-02-2022, 08:41 AM
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Bezos yacht costs $500M and they are going to dismantle a bridge to get it out ... Trump that Putin
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Old 17-02-2022, 08:50 AM
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you must realise Communism was designed to steal money from people in order to line Politicians pockets.
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Old 17-02-2022, 08:55 AM
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After the Bahamas(?) bank leaks a few year ago, they put Putin at around 200 billion I thought. Biden has around 9billion...

Glad to see them serving their countries so diligently....
I don't think its 9 billion for Mr Biden but more around 9 million.

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Old 17-02-2022, 09:12 AM
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you must realise Communism was designed to steal money from people in order to line Politicians pockets.
Actually that is not correct John and you can work that out for yourself if you study the matter and actually work with facts rather than an unsupported belief.

I am not defending Communism but I can not abide unsupported falsehood.

All political systems are subject to corruption and that is a fact not a mere belief.

AND the nature of wealth is that without a pyramid in effect with very rich at the top and very poor at the bottom there would be little value in the system if you think it through.

When we look at folk like Putin it would be wise, rather than think of his wealth, to think about what a terrible life it must be at the top of the pyramid...my boat was my boat for me..his boat is just part of the machinery to provide the populace with a leader.

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Old 17-02-2022, 09:15 AM
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What is interesting is the history of the Ukraine ( all history is interesting) ..it is hard to find much peace in their past.
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Old 17-02-2022, 10:11 AM
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I don't think its 9 billion for Mr Biden but more around 9 million.

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True my bad, or my fingers... and he earnt 17m plus in the trump years... so, he actually pays tax...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michela...h=78ece1a0461b
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Stalin starved half of the Ukraine to death as marxist theory trumped science or even basic peasant common sense. Putin might want to revisit that stunning period in history to win a few concessions.

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Old 18-02-2022, 08:22 AM
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Stalin starved half of the Ukraine to death as marxist theory trumped science or even basic peasant common sense. Putin might want to revisit that stunning period in history to win a few concessions.
Almost current news I was thinking about a longer time frame which wiki outline ned briefly..


Prehistoric Ukraine, as part of the Pontic steppe, played an important role in Eurasian cultural contacts, including the spread of the Chalcolithic, the Bronze Age, Indo-European expansion and the domestication of the horse.[1][2][3]

Part of Scythia in antiquity and settled by Getae, in the migration period, Ukraine is also the site of early Slavic expansion, and enters history proper with the establishment of the medieval state of Kievan Rus, which emerged as a powerful nation in the Middle Ages but disintegrated in the 12th century. After the middle of the 14th century, present-day Ukrainian territories came under the rule of three external powers:[4]

the Golden Horde
the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Kingdom of Poland – during the 15th century these lands came under the rule of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, then of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth (from 1569)
the Crimean Khanate (from the 15th century)
After a 1648 rebellion of the Cossacks against the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky agreed to the Treaty of Pereyaslav in January 1654. The exact nature of the relationship established by this treaty between Cossack Hetmanate and Russia remains a matter of scholarly controversy.[5] The agreement precipitated the Russo-Polish War of 1654–67. In consequence, by the Eternal Peace Treaty, signed in 1686, the eastern portion of Ukraine (east of the Dnieper River) were to come under Russian rule,[6] 146,000 rubles were to be paid to Poland as compensation for the loss of the Right Bank of Ukraine[7] and the parties agreed not to sign a separate treaty with the Ottoman Empire.[8] The treaty was strongly opposed in Poland and was not ratified by the Sejm (parliament of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth) until 1710.[9][10] The legal legitimacy of its ratification has been disputed.[11] According to Jacek Staszewski, the treaty was not confirmed by a resolution of the Sejm until the Convocation Sejm (1764).[12]

After the Partitions of Poland (1772–1795) and the Russian conquest of the Crimean Khanate, the Russian Empire and Habsburg Austria were in control of all the territories that constitute present day Ukraine for a hundred years.

A chaotic period of warfare ensued after the Russian Revolutions of 1917. The partially-recognised Ukrainian People's Republic emerged from its own civil war of 1917–1921. The Ukrainian–Soviet War (1917–1921) followed, in which the Bolshevik Red Army established control in late 1919.[13] The Ukrainian Bolsheviks, who had defeated the national government in Kiev, established the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which on 30 December 1922 became one of the founding republics of the Soviet Union. Initial Soviet policy on Ukrainian language and Ukrainian culture made Ukrainian the official language of administration and schools. Policy in the 1930s turned to Russification. In 1932 and 1933, millions of people, mostly peasants, in Ukraine starved to death in a devastating famine, known as Holodomor. It is estimated by Encyclopædia Britannica that 6 to 8 million people died from hunger in the Soviet Union during this period, of whom 4 to 5 million were Ukrainians.[14] Nikita Khrushchev was appointed the head of the Ukrainian Communist Party in 1938.

After Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939, the Ukrainian SSR's territory expanded westward. Axis armies occupied Ukraine from 1941 to 1944. During World War II the Ukrainian Insurgent Army fought for Ukrainian independence against both Germany and the Soviet Union. In 1945 the Ukrainian SSR became one of the founding members of the United Nations.[15] After the death of Stalin (1953), the Ukrainian Khrushchev as head of the Communist Party of Soviet Union enabled a Ukrainian revival, and in 1954 the republic expanded to the south with the transfer of Crimea from Russia. Nevertheless, political repressions against poets, historians and other intellectuals continued, as in all other parts of the USSR.

Ukraine became independent again when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. This started a period of transition to a market economy, in which Ukraine suffered an eight-year recession.[16] Subsequently, however, the economy experienced a high increase in GDP growth. Ukraine was caught up in the worldwide economic crisis in 2008 and the economy plunged. GDP fell 20% from spring 2008 to spring 2009, then leveled off.[17]

The prolonged crisis began on 21 November 2013, when then-president Viktor Yanukovych suspended preparations for the implementation of an association agreement with the European Union. This decision resulted in mass protests by pro-Europeans – events which became known as the "Euromaidan" or the "Revolution of Dignity". After months of such protests, the Ukrainian parliament impeached Yanukovych on 22 February 2014. On 22–23 February, the Russo-Ukrainian War started when Russian forces entered Crimea.[18] In late February, unrest enveloped the largely Russophone eastern and southern regions of Ukraine, from where Yanukovych had drawn most of his support. A referendum in the largely ethnic Russian Ukrainian autonomous region of Crimea was held and Crimea was de facto annexed by Russia on 18 March 2014. The War in Donbas started in Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts of Ukraine involving pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian Ukrainians and Russian mercenaries. The crisis negatively influenced the Ukrainian economy.
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