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Old 06-08-2015, 09:34 AM
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Makkas..lost the plot?

I travel a great deal these days and use McDonalds as a rest stop.
I go there for food and toilet stop.
Once you ordered your MC meal and got it rather fast..now I seem to wait for ages.
When the burger arrived I get told "your coffee is at the cafe"...more delay often with 3,4,or 5 people before you.
Now they let you build your own burger.
I tried that an was served a hamburger without a bun..seemed I needed to specify that I wanted a bun with my burger..
Further the main reason I go there is they were always clean whereas lately they seem to be less concerned.
One place the seat covers were fit for the tip, badly torn thru wear.
I go to 5 different Macs on my trip from Tabulam to Sydney and frankly they have all in my view lost sight of the fact they are a hamburger shop
Their appeal was that they offerred a clean convenient pit stop but now they seem to have lost the plot.
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Old 06-08-2015, 09:52 AM
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Now they let you build your own burger.
I tried that an was served a hamburger without a bun..seemed I needed to specify that I wanted a bun with my burger..
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well if you orderd one without bun....... the "homemadeoz" or whatever its called is pretty good.
The overall standard is usually pretty good but they all have off days, if you go to the one at sallys corner after 3 bus loads of kids go through it looks like a bomb's hit it.
I always ask for coffee from the normal shop not the Café as it takes way too long, that seems to be the same everywhere.
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Old 06-08-2015, 10:19 AM
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Most now do not give you the option re coffee. You order at the burger counter but have to pick it up from the cafe.
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Old 06-08-2015, 10:31 AM
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I travel a great deal these days and use McDonalds as a rest stop.
I go there for food and toilet stop.
Once you ordered your MC meal and got it rather fast..now I seem to wait for ages.
When the burger arrived I get told "your coffee is at the cafe"...more delay often with 3,4,or 5 people before you.
Now they let you build your own burger.
I tried that an was served a hamburger without a bun..seemed I needed to specify that I wanted a bun with my burger..
Further the main reason I go there is they were always clean whereas lately they seem to be less concerned.
One place the seat covers were fit for the tip, badly torn thru wear.
I go to 5 different Macs on my trip from Tabulam to Sydney and frankly they have all in my view lost sight of the fact they are a hamburger shop
Their appeal was that they offerred a clean convenient pit stop but now they seem to have lost the plot.
Maccas is bad anyway you look at it. You're best off stopping at a road house somewhere. Tuckers are better.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:20 AM
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The only plus I have seen of late is the ability to add a few things to the standard menu. A sprinkling of Jalapeno slices certainly lifts a cheeseburger to a less mundane level. That said, think they have gone downhill in recent years, most notably since the "Made when you order" thing came in.

First up, does anyone believe that they cook your quarter pounder from scratch when you ask for it?

Secondly, it introduced "Waiting" to the concept, in stores built around a decades old "stack em high, move em quick" model, I.E. not designed for people to be standing around the counter waiting.

Finally, they obviously had to find a way to cook things a little quicker and around that time I first noticed that the meat patties just barely count as cooked! They are never hot, never taste well cooked, actually have a texture more like they have been boiled than done on a hotplate and are always dead bland so as not to offend the mass market! (Though that is not new)

And if I want to "build my own" I will go to a proper chippie where none of the above applies.

I don't seem to be coming across as a fan, I guess I am not.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:20 AM
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Hadn't been to Subway in maybe 3 years, but yesterday after a LONG drive, I was craving...

Ordered my old favourite - Italian BMT on Italian Herb, old english cheese, all salads (minus pickles and olives), and Chipotle sauce.

Frankly, it was tasteless. No idea why! Just not a single taste bud fired a response in my brain. Was like eating paper with dripping sauce.

Meh. Back to making my own ham, cheese and pickles sandwiches for the road.
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Old 06-08-2015, 11:26 AM
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I agree. It is also expensive for what it is. $5.40 for a "Big" Mac? Get outta here I think that the ridiculously big menu these days, with all the so called healthy salads, wraps and other posh crap to appease the do-gooders, socialists, hipsters etc and now create your taste, surely the costs of all this has to be absorbed somehow, driving up prices.

I find it ironic that the create your taste is advertised as "how very non-Maccas". That right there is the problem. If I wanted a custom made gourmet burger, I wouldn't go to Maccas. If I wanted a healthy lunch, I wouldn't go to Maccas. I go to Maccas because I want a quick fix Big Mac or whatever for a reasonable price.
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:12 PM
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A long long long long... time ago, burgers used to be alright. I mean the ingredients sourced were very different back then. Now the demand for fast food is so huge and so many corners are cut to supply it that what you eating is killing you to put it in plain simple terms. I wouldn't even eat there if it was free. Convenience is not as important as keeping my health.
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Old 06-08-2015, 12:54 PM
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Sorry to go kind of off topic but why would you go to Maccas at Sallys Corner/Sutton Forest? Southbound there is a fantastic cafe and winery at Eling Forest. Bottom of the hill at the long straight before the Illawarra Highway off ramp. Northbound I would go the cafe at the Sutton Forest Winery, it's just North of the carpark before you go on to the on ramp. The food at both these venues are fantastic and completely different. Granted they are both closed from around 3pm but we have met family out there for lunch as they are passing through between Canberra and Sydney. Great food, friendly service and very clean. Bonus taste a Southern Highlands wine while you are there.

Another option would be a detour to Moss Vale, cost you about 20 minutes in time plus your break. Go to Bernies for a burger, great meal and a really nice 60s diner.

When I'm travelling I avoid Maccas like the plague. Rather pay a bit more and get cafe food or as others have suggested visit a roadhouse. If there's plenty of trucks there gauranteed you'll get a good meal otherwise they would go elsewhere.

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Old 06-08-2015, 01:06 PM
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Well they have lost me..
They are no longer convenient.
They are too expensive for their quality.
They lack attention to cleanliness and maintenance.
Their game has dropped.
They are into fads and have forgotten why they were accepted
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:14 PM
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Maccas is locally known as the Bogan Coffee Club Order your carp coffee wearing ugg boots and a hoodie. KEWL!

Changing topic. Driving through the local coffee bar strip yesterday, I spy a guy and his wife sitting on the chairs, pulled away from the table facing the road where everyone could see them, both with sweaters drapped over their shoulders 1970's country club style, looking highly pretentious. Yes, such a wonderful, chique, sophisticated look to be sitting roadside drinking your coffee whilst pretending to sell your shares on the stockmarket, all the while sucking up bulk carbon monoxide and looking like a right toss.

They must have been from Toorak
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:20 PM
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One of the things I look forward to most about an all night observing session is the roadhouse bacon and egg sangers on the way home in the morning
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:44 PM
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Haven't been inside a 'Maccas' since 2005 over in LAX airport. Was the only place we recognised and got asked did we want get the BIG BUCKET.
Never eat food out of a bucket as Billy Connolly says.
We'll never go into one in the future, ever !!
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:49 PM
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Crappas is certainly worth avoiding at all costs, so is Hungry Cracks and Pizza Slug. KFC is just ludicrously priced. All the fast food joints have gone to poop.

I'd rather eat at Andrew's Greek Taverna and Ouzo Bar than any of the big Yank chains.
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Old 06-08-2015, 01:51 PM
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I head north tomorrow and will take fresh food an a thermos.
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Old 06-08-2015, 02:24 PM
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I agree. It is also expensive for what it is. $5.40 for a "Big" Mac? Get outta here I think that the ridiculously big menu these days, with all the so called healthy salads, wraps and other posh crap to appease the do-gooders, socialists, hipsters etc and now create your taste, surely the costs of all this has to be absorbed somehow, driving up prices.

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It is most likely true that people with a social conscience are causing an increase in the cost of a Big Mac. However, I suspect it has more to do with pressure being applied to their suppliers which, incidentally, have an egregious track record with respect to animal cruelty, pollution and deforestation.

McDonald's are very aware that the majority of their customers would not support them if the reality of the situation was explained to them. They like to make the pretense of being an (ostensibly) ethical corporation but it is not difficult to see evidence to the contrary.

Take for example one of their first tier suppliers, Tyson foods.
The public face is as follows:
The company is one of the largest food suppliers in the US, it has 120,000 employees in 300 facilities across the world. They also work with 7000 independent chicken growers.

Tyson Renewable energy.
On April 16, 2007, Tyson announced a joint venture with ConocoPhillips to produce roughly 175 million gallons of biodiesel a year. (from animal fat byproduct)

Corporate Charity.
Since 2000, Tyson Foods has given more than 35,000 tonnes of its products to hunger and disaster relief in the United States.Tyson has donated millions of dollars in cash to help non-profit organizations across the country. For these efforts, Forbes named Tyson Foods the second most proportionally generous company for its donations in 2007. Tyson initiated the KNOW Hunger campaign in early 2011 to raise awareness of hunger in the United States.After the Joplin tornado of 2011, Tyson sent 35 tonnes of food to the city. It also sent 45 tonnes of food to the communities along the Gulf of Mexico after the oil spill.


Religious activities
Current chairman John Tyson is a practicing Interfaith Christian. In addition to placing 128 part-time chaplains (including both Protestant and Catholic Christians and Muslim Imams) in 78 Tyson plants, in 2006, the company invited their customers to download a prayer book, containing prayers from many faiths, including Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and American Indian spirituality, from the company's website to read during mealtime.

And by their deeds shall you know them.......

In June 2003, the company admitted to illegally dumping untreated wastewater, pleading guilty to 20 felony violations.
According to EPA and U.S. D.O.J. officials, Tyson continued to illegally dump wastewater after the search warrants were executed.

In 2002, a lawsuit was filed concerning the discharge of dangerous quantities of ammonia from Tyson's Western Kentucky factories. Tyson settled the suit in January 2005, agreeing to spend $500,000 to mitigate and monitor the ammonia levels.


In 2004, Tyson was one of six poultry companies to pay a $7.3 million settlement fee to the city of Tulsa, Oklahoma, to settle charges that the use of chicken waste as fertilizer had created phosphorus pollution in Tulsa's main drinking water sources.


In 2001, Tyson was charged with conspiracy to smuggle undocumented workers to work on its production lines. Prosecutors alleged that the conspiracy to import workers dates back to 1994.


In May 2006, Tyson suspended operations at nine plants during a nationwide day of immigration demonstrations citing expected lack of workers.


In October 2006, a federal judge granted class-action status to a lawsuit brought by Tyson employees who allege that Tyson's practice of hiring illegal immigrants depresses wages 10–30%.


In 2004 a federal jury found that Tyson Fresh Meats had used captive supply agreements to artificially lower fed cattle prices in violation of the Packers and Stockyard Act. Damages were found to be $1.28 billion.


To see one of Tyson's pig farms in action, go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNY4Fjsdft4


To see another one of McDonald's (chicken) suppliers in action, go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6E8H3C1CrU
(thankfully no more)



Watch the above video and tell me if that is not fascism distilled to its purest form.


Frankly, I choose to vote with my wallet and elect not to participate. McDonald's on the other hand only have a problem with it when they get caught.... And you can see that with their faux deforestation policy as well.



Besides... their burgers taste like culo, if we are to be honest.
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Old 06-08-2015, 07:32 PM
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McDonalds made the decision a few years ago to switch from pre-made burgers to making them as people order.
Idiotic decision.
The food isn't any better, and the only real reason for going there is the speed, which they now no longer have.
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Old 06-08-2015, 08:54 PM
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You have to love the number system too. We go there for lunch sometimes and our numbers are up on the "ready for pickup" screen in a few minutes. Full meal with drinks etc usually another 5mins later.

I reckon its a scam to make their store KPIs look better

Its never exactly what your order (eat in/eat out, size of chips, size of drink) which keeps the suspense up. Hate the ordering screens. Will be just an excuse to cut back on staff at the front desk IMHO.
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Old 06-08-2015, 10:02 PM
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Been wonderin Sab hows the houseboat going to get up the drivethrough for the hot n spicy or maccy d's ? :0

On a more personal rant I'm convinced coffee has killed most fast food everywhere I go , even the freakin bakery I get a pie from now has a coffee machine thing that needs the full attention of the only staff member often .
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Been wonderin Sab hows the houseboat going to get up the drivethrough for the hot n spicy or maccy d's ? :0

On a more personal rant I'm convinced coffee has killed most fast food everywhere I go , even the freakin bakery I get a pie from now has a coffee machine thing that needs the full attention of the only staff member often .
Until those Kentucky Fried Muppets listen to the people and release Hot n Spicy permanently instead of gimmick after gimmick after gimmick, I have no reason to drive my houseboat through their drive through. Actually yeah, my rage lies with KFC atm for not giving us Hot n Spicy for the 2nd year in a row. We had those hot n spicy boneless fillets which were apparently supposed to be better but it's not the same, what being nugget size and all and there is nothing like the real thing on the bone. So I guess it's another 2 year wait then. I just want to smash 'em. Especially seeing as WA and QLD get Hot n Spicy permanently, I thought there are laws against such filthy discrimination

As for Maccas, I don't mind the new numbering system, haven't really noticed an increase in wait times, although this is sometimes dependent on the store. Worst store I ever ran afoul of was the one in Waverley Gardens shopping centre, you are always waiting forever only to find your burger either sat on or half the contents in the box. What a hole.
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