Watch out!! New ebay scam about!!!! - Page 2

dugnsuz (Doug) · #21 26-09-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stevo69

I have been the victim of eBay scams. eBay jumps on the eventually, BUT, they imply that you, the legitimate eBay user is at fault. Either you answered a spam email or similar. They will never admit that their systems are "hackable".

Hi Stevo,
This scam is a very easy one to do and falls outside of ebay's "foolproof" systems. I could do it to you right now - just fake bid on a buy it now item, then try to get you to post it to me in leiu of funds to your account...I'll transfer cash tomorrow Stevo honest!!!!!! Except i wouldn't be as thick to include a Nigerian pastor in the scam

It's a very human hack!!!!! The gullible and greedy need only put their commonsense on hold for a wee while.
And yes, I agree - ebay sent a list of links on how to protect myself against fraud, all of which still wouldn't/couldn't plug the hole that let this scammer into the system in the first place

All the best
Doug

dugnsuz (Doug) · #22 26-09-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Garyh

Love your tracking number...

good one Doug!!!...

Having been with ebay for some years we havn`t had this one pulled on us yet! Did they actually wanted your account details including your password? as I don`t know how they could access your account with the normal account details as used in ebay?
We have had plenty of fake invoices for items we havn`t bid on to get us to pay for someone elses items!!
Have to be real careful these days!

Hi Gary,
They wanted bsb and account details to transfer the non existent cash to,
I gave them some made up ones... but then they sent a spoof email from Barclays bank in london stating that barclays were holding the funds deposited by the "buyer" and could I now post the item to the Nigerian address - inform them of the tracking number so that the funds could be sent to my account

I saw this morning that the scammer had 2 negative feedbacks against him - mine and a guy in Melb selling an Xbox. I wonder if that was for the pastor in Nigeria who needed it urgently too!!!!

Cheers
Doug

Stevo69 · #23 26-09-2007, 10:30 AM

My scams are specifically relate to someone taking over my account. My account suddenly is taken over by another eBayer. They change my password and postal address. Then they start listing large ticket items for sale. They have listed bobcats, large excavating machine, semi's, prime movers. They want the bidders to register with "me" before bidding. These items are listed in the $ tens of thousands of dollars. The offender also starts bidding on anything they can, using my account. In my case, the offenders ended up originating from Denmark, Germany and Ukraine, using internet cafe's in Canada (this is what eBay tell me anyway).

When I contact eBay,they have taken 2-3 days to rectify. Then imply that I must have given out my password, or responded to a spam email. I am pretty internet savvy, and would never do this, but there is no 100% foolproof way of buying on-line.

After several years on eBay, my two basic tips are:

Use the eBay message system - don't reply to any emails through you mail client.
Open a small bank account which is independent from your main banking accounts - even use a different bank. And only keep a small amount in at all times
And we have a post box.

hoo roo,
Steve

dugnsuz (Doug) · #24 26-09-2007, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevo69

My scams are specifically relate to someone taking over my account.

After several years on eBay, my two basic tips are:

Use the eBay message system - don't reply to any emails through you mail client.
Open a small bank account which is independent from your main banking accounts - even use a different bank. And only keep a small amount in at all times
And we have a post box.

hoo roo,
Steve

Bad luck there mate.
That sounds major organised crime!!!
Thanks for the advice - I run all my ebay stuff from a different bank to my main bank...and being an amateur astrophotographer it's always empty!!

Cheers
Doug

joe_smith · #25 26-09-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bizarro

Speaking of scamming the scammers here's a site with some funny transcripts. He does a pretty good job at stringing them along for a while. He even gets them to take some funny photos of themselves.

http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/

Cheers,
Greg

Now that made my day

Glenhuon (Bill) · #26 26-09-2007, 08:22 PM

I've been an ebay buyer and occasional seller for about 6 years and never had any of the problems in this thread. Had only one item obviously not posted, and that was a $35 second hand mobile phone. Maybe I've been lucky, or probably very carefull. Always check my sellers ratings before bidding, never buy from someone who is a recent subscriber, watch my buyers like a hawk during bidding (had a couple of scammers bidding on a recent sale, stuck out a mile they knew each other,blocked them.) Never send anything until the money is in my sweaty paw ( I'm a Scot, its in the genes

) I've had over 370 transactions during my time on ebay and must say its been a 99.5% positive experience.
(And no, I do not have large ears and my middle name is not Quark LOL)

dugnsuz (Doug) · #27 26-09-2007, 09:47 PM

Absolutely Glenhuon - I'm from Edinburgh, yes it's genetic - the canny gene!
It all worked out OK - I relisted the item today and it sold today, and ebay will refund me the scammed fees!!
What peeved me was as a seller the scammer controlled the auction in a way, by clicking on the "buy it now" option - he/she scuppered the auction - that part was outwith my control!
Point is, there's no real way to protect oneself (as a seller) from a scammer coming out of left-field on ebay like this!
That's the point I've been trying to highlight in this thread and to ebay support too - but they send back "don't give out passwords" etc etc.
Standard ebay-member-as-idiot fare!!!!
Cheers
Doug

leon · #28 26-09-2007, 09:55 PM

Hey Doug I had that very same pastor Linda try that stunt on me, when i was selling my Olympus Om 4ti, she nearly begged me to send it off and offered extra payment if i did.

It was to be a present for her father in some foreign country, I smelled a rat and she finally gave up.

Leon

Glenhuon (Bill) · #29 27-09-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dugnsuz

Absolutely Glenhuon - I'm from Edinburgh, yes it's genetic - the canny gene!
It all worked out OK - I relisted the item today and it sold today, and ebay will refund me the scammed fees!!
What peeved me was as a seller the scammer controlled the auction in a way, by clicking on the "buy it now" option - he/she scuppered the auction - that part was outwith my control!
Point is, there's no real way to protect oneself (as a seller) from a scammer coming out of left-field on ebay like this!
That's the point I've been trying to highlight in this thread and to ebay support too - but they send back "don't give out passwords" etc etc.
Standard ebay-member-as-idiot fare!!!!
Cheers
Doug

Glad it worked out OK in the end Doug. Yes, from the little experience I've had with Ebay's "protection system" it is usually just the standard format reply. Sent them a couple of scam emails but just get the standard reply, don't bother now just delete them. The two guys I was refering to bid the item up to a ridiculous level, far more than it could possibly be worth. Dumped them and things went sensibly thereafter

I'm from just outside Edinburgh, born in Newtongrange, brought up in Gorebridge. A wee miners laddie

Stevo69 · #30 27-09-2007, 06:41 PM

Another interesting experience with eBay very recentyl... I bought an XBox game where the auction clearly stated "New and factory sealed, never opened". When it arrived it was not factory sealed (no shrinkwrap or similar). It was also scratched. eBay's policy was that I had to prove it was not sealed. eBay Australia suggested the only was to get my money refunded after the seller ignored many emails, was to send eBay a statutory declaration to eBay California. They rejected it on the grounds that they do not accept a stat dec from Australia. All this after it was recommended by eBay Australia! Work that out.

dugnsuz (Doug) · #31 27-09-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevo69

Another interesting experience with eBay very recentyl... I bought an XBox game where the auction clearly stated "New and factory sealed, never opened". When it arrived it was not factory sealed (no shrinkwrap or similar). It was also scratched. eBay's policy was that I had to prove it was not sealed. eBay Australia suggested the only was to get my money refunded after the seller ignored many emails, was to send eBay a statutory declaration to eBay California. They rejected it on the grounds that they do not accept a stat dec from Australia. All this after it was recommended by eBay Australia! Work that out.

That's what we call the runaround!!
Idiocy wrapped up in small print.
On one sale, the ebay messaging system provided me with an out of date address (I should have checked I know - but not this time, now I do!!!).
The item was posted, had a nice trip round Oz before coming back to me...no harm done! Now I know the buyer should have up dated their details, but ebay's response was a very defensive "we bear no responsibility for anything posted" attitude, the ultimate disclaimer,
a la Sgt Shultz - "I know nothing!"
Had a similar xbox experience too! The 6 bundled games that came with an Xbox 360 were copies - not even in covers, just DVD's with texta titles!!!!
I left a negative feedback rating but didn't follow up with ebay - I should have! Still, they all worked

ebay's a laugh innit!!!!!
Cheers
Doug

dugnsuz (Doug) · #32 27-09-2007, 07:13 PM

Just had a message through the ebay message system from a concerned member who was being scammed by my Nigerian scammer right now!!
He's out there people - Watch Out!!!!!!!
Doug