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Old 27-08-2006, 02:30 PM
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I think the Baader mount he uses is very similar to the one from Clear Vision. It isn't a straight through tube but is infact a lense system to still achieve the full 6.3 reduction. It's hard to tell from the picture but it looks similar
I just happen to have the anteres 2" camera adapter and a celestron f6.3 focal reducer, I will give them a go!
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Old 27-08-2006, 02:40 PM
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Please do h0ughy, I'd like to know how you go getting focus using the Canon
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Old 27-08-2006, 03:12 PM
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OK just had a play

right the first images are with the focal reducer on the Skywatcher ed80 pro using my canon 300d mod, so I apologise for the images now. Taken looking roughly east away from the afternoon sun, they are of a communications tower, a tree and the roof of my house. I will also include a wide field shot to show where they were taken.

Until I saw the post by Phil I had no idea that I could use the focal reducer with the adapter. I have two, the Antares one and a Orion one, they are identical! Oh and I left on the IR/uv filter.
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Old 27-08-2006, 03:16 PM
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now I will say focus was extremely easy to achieve with the reducer in, and I had room to move from a far focus to a near object, and the draw tube was not too far out, maybe an inch-1,5 inches.

but without the reducer it was to the full extent of the draw tube plus a little bit of the adapter moved. So there is a huge difference in focus positions . I am keen to give this a go soon too!
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Old 27-08-2006, 03:19 PM
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I also apologise for the terrible images
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Old 27-08-2006, 03:32 PM
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I still cant see any slab going down for the observatory Houghy.

Thats the same T-adapter I use...much better then the skinny sct adapter.
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Old 27-08-2006, 03:52 PM
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I still cant see any slab going down for the observatory Houghy.

Thats the same T-adapter I use...much better then the skinny sct adapter.
You are too cruel Tony , I hope ice freezes over the corrector plate (not really but that's about as nasty as I can think at the moment for that cruel and insidious comment you made , I am working on it though, the pier on on the drawing board and the steel is hot ........)
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Old 27-08-2006, 03:55 PM
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yeah where is that pier?

By the way I have no idea what you are trying to achieve there with all those gadgets, how do they work under the stars? Any coma, CA etc.........??
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Old 27-08-2006, 04:55 PM
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Well I've ordered the Orion 2" adapter from Bintel to go with my existing Meade 6.3 FR. I'll post how it goes when it arrives but looking at h0ughys images at least I know it comes to focus.
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Old 27-08-2006, 05:59 PM
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Paul, Jim (footprint) has successfully mated the celestron F6.3 to his ED80. (see this thread) It may be worth PMing him and asking for details. Also this site may give some clues. It appears that the distance from the focal reducer to the focal plane is critical according to this report.

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Old 27-08-2006, 11:57 PM
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http://www.saratogaskies.com/article...ers/index.html

havent got around to buying a fr yet, i will get around to it sometime in the future.

0.8x will take you from 600mm f/7.5 down to 480mm f/6, its a difference.
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Old 28-08-2006, 02:39 AM
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Gama do you need an special adapter to get your Next Gen reducer to reach focus in the Orion?
I just used the adapter for the Sbig camera that i had.
Turned out to be close enough to give good results.

Further, the f6.3 reducer also works very well on Newtonians.
I placed mine on my 22" F4.5 and not only did it reduce, but gave a nice flatter image. Mind you i was holding it by hand.. I need to make some adapter for it for a more permanent setup.
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Old 28-08-2006, 05:32 AM
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I've ordered a WO 0.8x 2" reducer for my 80mm doublet. They are on backorder, but have heard good reports. It will take my f/6.9 to f/5.5 and hopefully flatten the field so I can utilise the whole 300D chip. ATM I get coma in the corners.
Let us know how you get on with the f/6.3 as I have one of those too, but no adapters at the moment.
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Old 28-08-2006, 07:47 AM
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If anyone has with and without reducer shots I'd be interested in seeing them posted here. If enough are posted to give a range of good comparisons, with the links to the suppliers, it could be worthwhile making this a sticky thread for other refractor users to find more easily.
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Old 28-08-2006, 02:46 PM
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Hi 1ponders
Here are three pictures of treetops about 1km away. Taken with Celestron 102, 500mm stopped to f8.3 and Gstar camera. First – no reducer then home made 0.75 reducer and Mogg 0.6 reducer. Each needs different combination of T adaptors and the spacer rings to achieve focus. On my GS 150mm f5 Newtonian I cannot get focus with Mogg reducer at all.
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Old 28-08-2006, 03:27 PM
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Thanks for getting the ball rolling Karl.
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Old 28-08-2006, 06:46 PM
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Paul,
while the idea is sound, it would be my suggestion to try it on "stars". I had a reducer that looked for all money to be great in my ED80/840 scope. When Striker was after one I sent it to him, and it was awful, especially on the outer edges. Maybe it was made for a smaller chip than a DSLR, who knows. What I am suggesting here is that astro usage places greatly more stress on the optics than terrestrial.
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Old 28-08-2006, 11:34 PM
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Omega Cen. images with Celestron 102 500mm f5 and GStar camera. Singe exposure 0.64 sec. All images taken with same setting on wobbly undriven tripod. Sorry about focus, the Celestron got awful focuser.
Mogg 0.6 FR, Home made 0.75 FR and no Focal Reducer.
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Field Flattener terrors

Greetings folks. I am also trying to work out the best way to go with a filed flattener. I've got a Black Diamond 120mm refractor and love it to bits but I'm now slowly developing (ha ha) an interest in imaging.

I'm currently wading through the morass trying to determine the best way to go with a CCD camera and field flattener to suit. Guhru's most welcome to enlighten me...
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:27 PM
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Hi Paul, The WO PFlat 2 reducer flattener is designed for a DSLR size chip but again requires spacing of about 55mm from the chip.
This works very well with my Sywatcher ED80 (same as the Orion).
Available from www.andrewscom.com.au

P-FLAT2 NEW 2" APO field flattener, 0.8x reducer, for refractors. Includes 2" adaptor. $249.00
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