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Old 20-07-2015, 12:37 PM
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I have been using one of these in a battery box with an old SLA battery out of a jump start pack wired in with it to float me over any power bumps. I fitted two lighter sockets to the box so I plug in to it directly. I have a multi stage charger that I use to give the SLA the occasional drink between uses.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/Power-Produ...upply/p/MP3079
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Old 20-07-2015, 05:59 PM
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myastroshop also seems to sell the same PSU...

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It is a switchmode power supply where the voltage regulation is achieved by switching the pass transistor ratio of on-to-off time.
It'll work ok
I saw this from http://myastroshop.com.au:

https://www.myastroshop.com.au/produ...sp?id=MAS-096F

It appears to be identical to the one JayCar sells, so this would seem to be a vote of confidence!

John
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Old 20-07-2015, 06:21 PM
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Any better suggestions for home use? I'm used to using my battery and topping up regularly, but it be nice not to have to lug it down the garden
That Jaycar is reasonably priced, is it a case of too good to be true?
Batteries are rated to the number of recharges of recommended discharge e.g.800 times

Gel discharge to 15% x 800
i.e. (100Ah down to 15Ah = 75Ah*800 = 60,000 Ah available usage
SLA/ AGM discharge to 50% x 800
i.e. (100Ah down to 50Ah = 50Ah*800 = 40,000 Ah available usage
Then it only becomes a cost/usage ratio issue on which type to buy

I would use a power supply when home 240V ac is available
a nice all round model
http://www.jaycar.com.au/Power-Produ...upply/p/MP3098
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Old 20-07-2015, 06:21 PM
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I have been using one of these in a battery box with an old SLA battery out of a jump start pack wired in with it to float me over any power bumps. I fitted two lighter sockets to the box so I plug in to it directly. I have a multi stage charger that I use to give the SLA the occasional drink between uses.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/Power-Produ...upply/p/MP3079
oh gaud this hoary monster again. Its crap, its rated for "testing purposes" in the fine print, ie 1 min at full current if your lucky. I roasted 2 before I realised. Its a great smoke generator. Jaycar power supplies are the very bottom of the hobby market, obviously, you pay for what you get. If you must go jaycar, derate the spec by 60% at least.
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Old 21-07-2015, 10:14 AM
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just buy a jump starter power station and be done with it. why muck about with "will this work?" if you dont know what you're doing any want to save a few bucks. you're dealing with electricity outdoors with dew and wet grass and think mucking about with 240V benchtop (indoors, dry) power supplies and random cabling is not a good idea.
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Old 21-07-2015, 11:56 AM
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I think the battery is the way to go...

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just buy a jump starter power station and be done with it. why muck about with "will this work?" if you dont know what you're doing any want to save a few bucks. you're dealing with electricity outdoors with dew and wet grass and think mucking about with 240V benchtop (indoors, dry) power supplies and random cabling is not a good idea.
I've rather come to the same conclusion! The JayCar 240VAC-> 12VDC PSU doesn't look like a very robust bit of kit, not recommended for outdoor use, and the idea of messing around with 240V supplies at night in damp conditions just doesn't feel right. (I'll use the PSU to power my portable fridge when travelling, or to chill the beers on the verandah :-).

I've bought a 22AH 12V AGM battery which is small enough to sit on the tripod shelf and some cigarette socket adapters.

This will be more portable, less hassle in setting up, and safer. It even adds a bit of extra ballast to the tripod!

John.
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Old 21-07-2015, 02:20 PM
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the tripod ballast is handy, i got a mate to route me a curved triangle board to make a shelf that sits on my cgem dx mount leg supports, handy to keep power pack off the ground and dry, with room to sit other crap safely away from being stepped on in the dark

I know the jump start packs are pricey, but they are a also pratical, running laptop off inverter socket, built in light is great to help when setting up or dismantling in the dark when you need both hands. my first goto mount i bought a 10x AA cell holder and a jack to solder to it and ran my tripod off rechargables (got tons of them) with no problems, would give me juice for a weekends viewing then recharge during the week.

Once you progress to a bigger computer mount with a heavy payload and need to also power dew heaters, cameras, etc you need a beefier battery at the center of your power train, but getting started not really, especially if your mount has a battery compartment (just be aware they are usually for alkaline batteries (1.5V each) not rechargeables (1.2V) and you can damage the mount using the wrong ones, external power packs more flexible and cigarette lighter powering is pretty standard so its easy and safe to find a solution. batteries are always heavy and expensive so are portable power solutions.
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Old 21-07-2015, 03:43 PM
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I've gone the same route as you John with a 36AH Gel battery and a battery box with a ciggie socket and a carry handle. I can sit it under the tripod and also possibly rig up a hook for extra stability if required as you have alluded to.

I'm going to fit a 12v Red LED parking light to the case for illumination.

I also wasn't too fussed with having 240v leads and the PSU sitting on wet grass.
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Old 21-07-2015, 04:08 PM
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Hi,

I bought a 12V / 7.5 PSU from JayCar to power my Celestron AVX mount (http://www.jaycar.com.au/Power-Produ...ocket/p/MP3575), but I am not sure whether it is regulated or not.

The shop staff weren't able to tell me but said "probably", which doesn't fill me with confidence...

It seems to me that having a regulated power supply is highly desirable for a telescope mount, and I'm reluctant to experiment with a $1500 device which specifically states that use of non-Celestron PSUs will void the warranty.

Can anyone advise whether it would safe to use this PSU on my mount?

Many thanks for any guidance.

John.
If its the Powertrch 12v, 7.5amp with cigarette socket , I bought one from jaycar 2years ago and it works perfectly. It's the identical make and unit sold in the Bintel catalogue for about $10 more. Bintel advertises it for powering mounts , and other things . I think even cameras. So I think you've got an ideal power supply at an excellent price ( $39)
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Old 21-07-2015, 10:23 PM
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oh gaud this hoary monster again. Its crap, its rated for "testing purposes" in the fine print, ie 1 min at full current if your lucky. I roasted 2 before I realised. Its a great smoke generator. Jaycar power supplies are the very bottom of the hobby market, obviously, you pay for what you get. If you must go jaycar, derate the spec by 60% at least.

Which is fine given that maxed out I am running at about 25% of the rated output, perhaps some brief peaks at 50% when slewing.

I would suspect heat would be their biggest enemy, the cooling fan is pretty inadequate, I was looking at fitting a much bigger one to aid airflow and reduce noise.
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