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Old 14-05-2011, 05:24 PM
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May/June Observing Challenge (by Suzy, yeah!).

Here is this month’s challenge.


For the experienced observers, I ask that you observe and report on all the targets listed if possible please, so that people with less experience can learn and draw from your skills.

I look forward to as many participants as possible, including those that don’t normally write observing reports or enter them into the forum. So please join in – it’s a great way to sharpen up observing skills and learn.

I’ve decided to do something a little bit different on this challenge, in that we all observe the same constellation. Putting the focus on one constellation can be a lot fun and educational. Newbies in particular should enjoy the tour around a single constellation.
Therefore, I have chosen the constellation Hydra which sits nice and high at 8pm for these targets.


Please report all observations on this thread.


Easy:

M48 – Star Cluster.
This is a large open cluster with around 80 stars and is also a fine binocular object. Catch this first, as it’s currently sitting fairly low in the horizon- at the moment at 7.30pm has it sitting around 26 deg. As it’s fairly large- about the size of the full moon, it’s best suited to low power.



NGC 3242 - Ghost of Jupiter
- Planetary Nebula. Magnitude: 9.
One of the best showpiece planetary nebula in the sky. At 16 arc seconds it’s only just a little smaller than Saturn. It’s very easy to find, laying only one deg. to the left of mu hydra. At 8pm it will be nice and high sitting at 70 deg.
Start with medium power, this will reveal a bright Aqua disc. See if you can tease out the notches on either side and the bright star in the middle using 175 x mag. If your scope is 12 inches and over, see if you can see the bright oval inner ring using 200 x mag.. Depending on seeing condition, high mag may just make it look like a blurry white disc, so start with medium power (around 80x) which shows off its blue colour beautifully.



Medium

M83 (NGC 5236)- The Southern Pinwheel Galaxy (a barred spiral galaxy similar to ours). Magnititude: 7.6
This galaxy has been the host of more supernovae than other Messier objects. Six all up. It’s also one of the brightest and closest galaxies (aside from our local group).

This is a large face on spiral galaxy with a bright core. It’s spiral arms should be visible in apertures of 6 inches.
8 inches of aperture using a 100x, and averted vision should reveal the arms appearing as if they curve into each other and a bright circular core sitting inside a bar.
Apertures over 12 inches using 125x should reveal an interesting spiral arm pattern around the core amidst a bar which should appear quite bright. Dark lanes within the spiral arms should be apparent.


NGC 3621 - Galaxy. Magnitude: 8.9 v 12.9 sb (Ron's pick)
A face on spiral galaxy with a large bright core. It's situated within a large kite-shaped asterism.


V Hydra. Carbon star.
V Hydra is the reddest known carbon star and is reddest when it is at its dimmest. It has an orange/red colour to it. Refer to the link supplied at the end for more information.


M68 (NGC 4590)- Globular cluster. Magnitude: 8.

Apertures over 100mm will just start to resolve it. In binoculars it will appear as a fuzzy star.



Difficult

PK238+34.1 (Abell 33)- Planetary Nebula. Magnitude 12.4.



Difficult and you like punishment

NGC 3200- Galaxy. Magnitude 12.2 v / 13.8 sb

Apertures of 16": Where inside the disk can you see a 13.5 mag. star? Describe the core and the shape of the disk please. There is also a pair of 13 mag. stars 15" wide - where do they lay?

Moving on from Hydra....

THE ULTIMATE CHALLENGE...
Quasar 3C273
, in Virgo. (Mental's pick) See post no. 21 for the map.

This is the brightest quasar visible to amateur size scopes at around magnitude 13.8, meaning that you'll need a 12" scope or over. While in a scope it only appears stellar-like, the challenge here lies in identifying the quasar from the surrounding star field, which also lacks any outstandingly bright stars to assist in star hoping. Cool! This one is real "beat your chest" stuff. Some intrepid IIS members have also managed to photograph this tiny speck of light.

Quasars are some of the most distant, and brightest objects in the Universe. Quasar 3C273 is some 3 billion light years away, at this distance the brightest known galaxy would appear at magnitude 19!
Check out Steve Coe’s observing report on Hydra entitled, “What’s up Hydra?” here www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=1427
You may see some other further objects of interest to you while you are there.

I hope everyone has fun touring Hydra. Good luck to all!

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Old 14-05-2011, 06:40 PM
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As we're half way through the month already and the moon is now very bright, I've made the challenge as a combination for both May/June.

So how's the list shaping up? Any suggestions for further objects?

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Old 14-05-2011, 10:04 PM
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My pick for an Easy to Medium challenge would be face on spiral galaxy NGC 3621. At mag 10 and quite large,it is in a kite or cross like asterism.
I observed this galaxy using a Celestron 8" SCT for a number of years as part of a visual Supernova search.
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Old 14-05-2011, 10:21 PM
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Great suggestion Ron.
I will add that it in.

I'm also going to add in M48- an open cluster which will also be an excellent target for binos in the easy category.
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Old 15-05-2011, 08:32 AM
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Nice selection there, Suzy.

New comers to astro should note that the galaxy M83 is also just visible in binoculars from urban areas. Not all urban areas, alas, but if you can see the Eta Carina nebula naked eye, you'll be able to nab M83 in binos in 50mm and over in size.

I'd like to add one object here, please. I pinned it to Stu's thread for May, so, if you are feeling brave:

Quasar 3C273, in Virgo. This is the brightest quasar visible to amateur size scopes at around magnitude 13.8, meaning that you'll need a 12" scope or over. While in a scope it only appears stellar-like, the challenge here lies in identifying the quasar from the surrounding star field, which also lacks any outstandingly bright stars to assist in star hoping. Cool! This one is real "beat your chest" stuff. Some intrepid IIS members have also managed to photograph this tiny speck of light.

Quasars are some of the most distant, and brightest objects in the Universe. Quasar 3C273 is some 3 billion light years away, at this distance the brightest known galaxy would appear at magnitude 19!
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Old 15-05-2011, 09:18 AM
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Ooooh nice one Alex.
I'm concerned some folk might need medicating tho.

I have added it to the challenge.
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Old 15-05-2011, 11:26 AM
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Awesome,Great set of objects Suzy.

Its been fairly clear here but the moon is not letting me hunt down any of the faint stuff even the sombrero looks faint under a gibbbous moon.

I'll try next clear night without the moon about.

Alex,I think 3c273 is infact 2 billion light years away not 3 according to the latest measurements.Though i'll definately try to see this one.

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Old 15-05-2011, 03:18 PM
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Interesting list Suzy. I look forward to chasing them down. Well done.
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Me tooo
Can you pass a link where it explain how it work please?

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Old 15-05-2011, 09:37 PM
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Hi Giorgio,

It's a (usually) monthly list of targets for different levels of experience.

If you can report on this thread describing what you saw that would be fabulous too. If you are going to do a report, at the top of it, put the date of the observation, equipment & magnification used, including any filters etc used. Then list your objects with a report next to each one. There's no special way to write what you saw, just just describe what you see. Writing notes or using a voice recorder is a good way of recording information while you view an object. If we leave it up to our memory, often there is much we forget when it comes down to writing a report.
For an example of some reports, have a look in the "Observation Reports" forum which is a sub category to the Observation & Visual Astronomy forum (right at the top of the page).

I excitedly look forward to you joining us using your large binoculars!! How awesome! Your report with the binos will ad some nice variety.
Wait till the moon goes away (with the exception of the star cluster).
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Very well Suzy, I got the idea. I guess more than a report, mine will look more like a list of questions...

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A sketch or two would be nice too, .
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What a brilliant concept!
Can't wait to have a go at this as soon as I get some clear sky.

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Most of my sky seems to be grey and going sideways at 100 kms per hour .. and some of it keeps falling on my head ...
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Thanks for the great thread Suzy.
I'll be sure to hit these as soon as I get home.
Quick question though, would the quasar be listed in a goto system ?
I promise to search old school first but if I'm struggling will I be able to cheat ???

Grats again on a great thread. I love these monthly challenges.

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Old 19-05-2011, 09:25 AM
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Hi Stu,
I am glad you are enjoying the challenges.

What's the size of your scope?
I didn't know you'd upgraded - congratulations!
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Old 19-05-2011, 11:09 AM
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12" skywatcher goto.
She's a beaut !!
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Old 19-05-2011, 12:40 PM
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Stu, if it's not in your go-to list, you could look up the celestial coordinates (RA/declination) and plug them in to the system
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Great paddy thanks.

If I can do that I think the goto allows you to store them too

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Old 20-05-2011, 01:06 PM
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Congratulations Stu!!!

Stu, I have the co-ordinates plus a map for that Quasar in Virgo.
I will post it here today.

I see you like punishment on the challenge .
This one is a bit of out of my depth.
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