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Old 15-09-2005, 01:41 PM
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Wink Laser Pointers

Who uses them and are they better than normal finder scopes.
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Old 15-09-2005, 01:46 PM
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This thread is a continuation from the end of this thread. http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...4&page=2&pp=20
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Old 15-09-2005, 02:04 PM
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Aaron,

I use one on my 80ED.
It came with a finder bracket and I sourced out an old base to match the 80ED.

I use it all the time and I can't even remember the last time I used to Original finder that came with the Orion....

Here's a pic.
I used the trees in the back to show some scale but when its shooting into space it looks awesome and very accurate and easy to use.

Hope this helps.

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Old 15-09-2005, 02:12 PM
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Did u buy yours from bintel or elsewhere, how much was it?
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Old 15-09-2005, 02:20 PM
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Very much a Light Saber shot RB.
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Old 15-09-2005, 02:34 PM
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Old 15-09-2005, 02:40 PM
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Very much a Light Saber shot RB.
Yeah Paul, that tree that you see there, was full of leaves when I started this 30 Sec exposure. Now look at it.

Aaron: I bought mine a while ago now from Advanced Telescope Supplies. I don't know if he still stocks them. http://www.atscope.com.au/index.html

It's a 20mW version with the finder bracket and from memory it was approx $340 I think?

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Old 15-09-2005, 02:43 PM
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I don't like the principle. Given the range of these things, imagine the mess it would make of the night sky if everyone with a scope in their backyard was using one. And think of all those ruined astrophotos.
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Old 15-09-2005, 02:52 PM
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I don't like the principle. Given the range of these things, imagine the mess it would make of the night sky if everyone with a scope in their backyard was using one. And think of all those ruined astrophotos.

Not really Steve,

If you are not standing in the close visinity you vurtually can't see it.
You really need to be under it, in line and looking up at it to see the bright line.
Anyone standing affar off will not really notice much.
My neighbours can not see it at all.

And it's not as if you leave it on for long anyway. Basically you just point, line up and switch off and observe.


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Old 15-09-2005, 03:03 PM
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I got a 5 mW one off ebay a while back for under $100. Great, as long as the moon is not about (I still use a RDF then; and I plan to get a more powerful laser when I can afford it). Good fun to boot. Naturally you've got to be careful if anyone is imaging, but there are a helluva lot of sessions when that isn't the case.

Despite reading about a lot of concerns and potential objections, I haven't found that anyone minds. In fact, I attach mine to my ETX, and the dobbers are grateful to use it to find those hard to get at DSOs. Also, I find that the beam is nearly invisible once you've stepped a few metres away from it. I don't think the neighbours would ever see it, and if you really don't like it all you have to do is move your scope a few feet away from whoever is using it.

I'd be interested to hear others experiences...
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Old 15-09-2005, 03:08 PM
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photon and acropolite have just bought them for just over $100 from memory.

I saw then in use last new moon and i was very impressed. Well worth the money. Turn em on to line up and then flick it off and view thru the scope.

I would recommend it.

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Old 15-09-2005, 03:09 PM
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I agree and I'd stop using it if I was at a star party and anyone was to complain.
I would't want to disturb anyone elses viewing, for sure.

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Old 15-09-2005, 03:12 PM
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but not the beat box with metallica blaring out of it, you wouldn't turn that down or off would you????????
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Old 15-09-2005, 03:22 PM
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but not the beat box with metallica blaring out of it, you wouldn't turn that down or off would you????????
No, no way, and I'd turn my high beams on just to find the switch on the laser.
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Old 15-09-2005, 03:29 PM
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The "Leadlight" brand are the only ones to buy, as far as I can see, there are others that are copies of these & are not very effective.
We use one often on our club LX-90 as a finder for the difficult DSO's
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Old 15-09-2005, 11:29 PM
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I've got one of the 5mW Leadlight ones and love it!!!
Its makes a great tool for showing people where things are and is a super finder, especially when you are working up near "Dob's Hole" (azimuth for you RA-Dec guys).

RocketBoy is correct with how they are observed and used:
  • You only turn it on long enough to line up 5-10 secs max
  • The further away you are, the less obvious it is. Someone 100ft away wouldn't ever notice.
I looked to get a bracket for mine, but I found that on my 10", I can just lay it on the OTA, up snug against the focuser, and its within half a degree or so: well within the range of my low power EP's. For my 4.5", I can do the same thing, but against the base of the finder scope mount. Doing that saved me $20-$30 for a mounting bracket and actually works out better in that I can use it as a pointer for other folks more easily.

Two things you have to be careful with:
  • Aircraft - Just open your eyes and ears and make sure none are around before you turn it on. Takes all of 5 seconds and will save you a trip to the poke.
  • Ground objects - When that 5mW beam hits a tree, building, bush, etc even a thousand yards away, it puts up a BRIGHT green spot. If that was next to someone that was observing, it would easily wreck their night vision. If you hit them in the eye, obviously it would be worse, but with a 5mW version, their blink reflex will kick in before any permenant damage will occur.
I think they are a great tool, and like any other tool, in the wrong hands they can be very dangerous. But if used properly, they can make observing/teaching much easier and more enjoyable.
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Old 18-09-2005, 07:27 PM
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Photon (Ian) made a bracket with a piece of PVC pipe and some nylon screws for alignment. Perhaps he could post a pic...
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Old 18-09-2005, 07:35 PM
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I got mine from Mark Hodson's last star party....Graeme {Saturn20%} had some from 5MW to 15MW

Mine is 15MW and cost me $140
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Old 18-09-2005, 08:01 PM
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15mW green laser: now that would really pack a punch! Probably instant blindness if the beam enters the eye. I'd love to have one!
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Old 18-09-2005, 11:43 PM
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Ok....so is 5mW good for all round use or should you for one with more green grunt?
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