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Old 23-02-2011, 02:10 PM
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Question What happens when you stick your head in a particle accelerator!?

...well today I found out!
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index....e-accelerator/
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Old 23-02-2011, 02:17 PM
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"Despite the beam going through his brain, his intellectual capacity remained the same as before."

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Old 23-02-2011, 02:23 PM
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"Despite the beam going through his brain, his intellectual capacity remained the same as before."

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Then it goes on to say he had seizures, paralysis, loss of hearing, mental fatigue …

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Old 23-02-2011, 05:32 PM
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...mental fatigue …
I think he had the symptoms before he decided to stick his head in it.
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Old 23-02-2011, 06:00 PM
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I think he had the symptoms before he decided to stick his head in it.
I think the fatigue may have been just a 'Relative' thing, though ..

… after all, it must've been an accelerating experience ..



(Lets stop .. before this gets out of control .. )

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Old 23-02-2011, 08:26 PM
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omg..definite candidate for failblog!
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Old 24-02-2011, 09:42 AM
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The following has nothing to do with particle accelerators, but it's in the same vein...

At the Tafe course I did some 20 years ago, we had some robust furnaces going at around 850 deg C. After being used for the lesson it was lunch time, so the teacher thought-

"Hey, why not use the residual heat in the furnace to warm up my pizza slices for lunch?!"

At 850 deg. a slice of pizza becomes a bomb of fat and water vapour, doesn't it!!!!

BOOOM! and $1500 later to repair the furnace. Clever lad...
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Old 24-02-2011, 09:56 AM
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A friend in High School (60 years ago!) didn't believe that Hydrogen Sulfide H2S was poisonous. He started the gas generating in a fume cabinet, stuck his head in and lowered the door down. Fortunately, when he lost consciousness he slipped out under the door and we found him on the floor. He recovered OK but left the school not long after!

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Old 24-02-2011, 12:59 PM
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A friend in High School (60 years ago!) didn't believe that Hydrogen Sulfide H2S was poisonous. He started the gas generating in a fume cabinet, stuck his head in and lowered the door down. Fortunately, when he lost consciousness he slipped out under the door and we found him on the floor. He recovered OK but left the school not long after!

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He was very very lucky
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Old 24-02-2011, 02:06 PM
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I had a chemistry teacher who had a hammer blown out of his hand, whilst demonstrating to the class what happens when you 'bash' potassium chlorate together with sulphur!

I reckon Mark, (marki), would have a few stories to tell about this sort of stuff.

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Old 24-02-2011, 02:28 PM
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As someone who has been to a few particle accellerators you would have to know how to disable the safety interlocks to irradiate yourself.
I do not know the circumstances in this case but I am sure he was breaking every safety rule in the book.

There are innocents that cop the same fate.
There was a case of the Japanese Nuclear Industry sequentially hiring unemployed homeless people to mix Uranium 235 salts with minimal protection. The recipe was to mix small quantities of Uranium Hexafluoride into a solvent. These blokes thought the recipe was a waste of time so they did the whole lot at once. The mixture went critical and the room was a bright blue with Cherenkov Radiation. A sure sign of massive nuclear fission reactions. All these workers died of radiation exposure.
There was a big cover up but it still came out.

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Old 24-02-2011, 02:34 PM
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I've got another one! I've got another one!

A bloke that should have known much, much better as a plumber for close to 50 years, he's fixing the gas outlet to our stove in the kitchen. Being really, really confident about his workmanship, the bugger tests the seal for leaks with HIS LIGHTER!

BOOOOM!

No eyebrows, no eyelashes and a new haircut! And a lot of swearing in Greek that would have made a sailor blush!
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Old 24-02-2011, 02:47 PM
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This story sounds fishy. Aren't particle accelerators almost perfectly evacuated? If he'd stuck his head in there (assuming that was possible) it would have exploded.

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Old 24-02-2011, 03:35 PM
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This story sounds fishy. Aren't particle accelerators almost perfectly evacuated? If he'd stuck his head in there (assuming that was possible) it would have exploded.

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He could only irradiate himself with a 'beam' coming out of a 'window' that separates the vacuum from the outside.

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Old 24-02-2011, 04:20 PM
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The following has nothing to do with particle accelerators, but it's in the same vein...
OK you started me. Although the exact location has been lost I'm assured the basics of this are true. There was a factory which had a lab attached (presumably for quality control tests). In the lab was a gas chromatograph which was set up each day to do an overnight autorun (GC samples take from perhaps 30minutes to >1hr each to run). During each run the oven temperature is ramped from near ambient temperature to 200-300 degrees.

The problem was that for a short time each night the results (chromatograms) exhibited a noisy baseline and the elution time of the various compounds shifted. It worked fine all day and for the rest of the night. So specialist instrument technicians were called in. After exhaustive testing they could find no problems. So they set up a web cam to record exactly what happened during the night. What did they find? A worker from the factory doing night shift sneaked into the lab with his meal, opened the door to the GC oven and slipped his meal in to warm up! So of course the oven temperature was not what it should have been thus changing elution times and the sudden change of temperature upset the detector (FID? TCD?) and so produced a noisy baseline. No permanent damage done but a lot of time and money wasted. I think management should have put a microwave in the lunch room.
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I think management should have put a microwave in the lunch room.
… and put the factory worker into the GC oven overnight to get the results ..


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Old 24-02-2011, 05:23 PM
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Tickling the dragon's tail

Hi Doug,

I had been aware of this story before, but thanks for the link as it provided
more information than I had previously known.

It brings to mind the stories of Louis Slotin and Harry K Daghlian.
Both had worked on the Manhattan Project. A young Canadian physicist, Slotin
had been performing dangerous work to determine the criticality
of uranium and plutonium, in experiments that Richard Feynmann referred
to as "tickling the dragon's tail".

Slotin had assembled the Trinity device and after the war in 1946, he was performing
a criticality experiment involving two beryllium half-spheres and a spherical
plutonium core. See picture here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ti...agons_Tail.jpg

A screwdriver slipped and one of the beryllium neutron reflectors slipped causing the
two halves to come together. The room began to glow and others in the room
felt the heat as the plutonium began to go critical. Despite the burning, Slotin
pulled the top beryllium sphere off with his hands and stopped the reaction.
He then went about recording the positions of his co-workers in the room
to help determine their radiation dose. Slotin died nine days later.

The same core had been involved in another fatal accident only eight months
earlier when Harry K. Daghlian accidentally dropped a tungsten carbide brick
onto it during an experiment. The bricks were being used as neutron deflectors
to try and determine how small a core could be to still reach criticality.
Since the pile was about to go supercritical, Daghlian pulled it apart with
his bare hands in order to further expose the core. He died 25 days later.

A story on Slotin appears here on Wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Slotin
and a story on Daghlian here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_K._Daghlian,_Jr.
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Old 24-02-2011, 05:46 PM
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Gee Gary;

That's a sad one .. Daghlian was only 24 yrs old when he died, and Slotin was only 35 yrs.

Nasty way to go, too.

I notice they named an Asteroid in Slotin's honour in 2002.

Very sad.
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Yeouch! (to all those stories...)

The only one I can add was when I was at TAFE doing my engineering diploma there were some guys in the car park in the rain using their cigarette lighter to see why the carburetor of their hotted up Torana was blocked while another guy was furiously pumping the gas pedal.... I got out of there pretty quickly!

*lame story I know, but it's the best I got hehe*

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Following on from Gary's post, I notice (from Wiki) that a "Nuclear Radiation accident":
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is defined by the International Atomic Energy Agency as "an event that has led to significant consequences to people, the environment or the facility".
.. and that the total number of accidents, fatal and otherwise, is in dispute.

It would appear that most accidents may happen in the USA.

Hmm .. controversial.

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