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Old 03-10-2009, 10:02 PM
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IIS Red Screen option

Hi I am sitting outside my backyard, laptop running on my 750W inverter and WIFI connection to my ADSL modem inside the warm as toast house.

Thinking about this lovely cool night my eyes are being flooded with blue and white screen of IIS while waiting for the moon to rise fully.

Wondering if the website moderators or developers could look into an option for red screen for IIS similar to www.calsky.com

This is not a major problem for me now as the moon blinds me as well, but was thinking good option if I decide to do deep sky and want a break.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:09 PM
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Malcolm...
I run an app in the background called Niteview
http://www.astro.ufl.edu/~oliver/niteview/

While it does its job well with every other astro app I usually
have running, ie scope control/planetarium/ image capture etc...
it does not redden the browser window of IIS unfortunately.

Maybe there is a plugin that reddens the suite of web browser softwares?

Steve
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:12 PM
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Mal, if not, why not cut a piece of red gel (thick cellophane) the same size as the screen. You can get it from stage lighting suppliers
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:12 PM
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two words - red perspex
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:14 PM
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IIS runs css file which forces all text to behave with certain colours. It only seems to affect raw html or equivilent.

I may still use it on occasions.
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Even if you have a red night screen on an application eg The Sky 6. you are still getting white light. The most effective way is to use a red gel screen.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:16 PM
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Even if you have a red night screen on an application eg The Sky 6. you are still getting white light. The most effective way is to use a red gel screen.
I will be ordering a few of those soon. can put them on my headlights of the car when driving out of ASWA events.
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Old 04-10-2009, 12:11 PM
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My laptop screen is so dim that I dont require any sort of filtering... If i turn it down to the lowest brightness level and enable night vision mode in MaximDL, its actually hard to read because its so dim... Its good and bad in a way, it means that I cant process images on this screen at all, but at the same time I can be at dark skies without the need for a light filter...
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:02 PM
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If you use a Mac there is a free program call "DarkAdapted". It works a treat.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:27 PM
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Any screen that used a "red" night view screen still has white backlight coming through. The simplest way to get rid of all white light from a computer/laptop screen is to use a red gel filter. However if you are imaging having a red screen may not be as important as visual work
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:29 PM
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Any screen that used a "red" night view screen still has white backlight coming through. The simplest way to get rid of all white light from a computer/laptop screen is to use a red gel filter. However if you are imaging having a red screen may not be as important as visual work
Maybe a pair of sunglasses when the gel comes off. I occasionally while waiting for things to happen wear my sunnies when going back inside with the family.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:34 PM
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Sunnies are a good idea. Dennis has a good article on protecting night vision

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/63-213-0-0-1-0.html
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I did the sunnies thing once, and the WD and kids thought I was nuts.
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I did the sunnies thing once, and the WD and kids thought I was nuts.
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Just another thought...
I found that there are various "grades" of solar film that is used on car windows.
The "shades of grey" seem to work a tad better than the red.
It allows you to "see" all the text/objects, no matter the colour.
They always have a few off-cuts floating around in the bin, so cost is nil.
Regs, L..
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Old 15-10-2009, 05:24 PM
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If you use a Mac there is a free program call "DarkAdapted". It works a treat.
For PC too!
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Old 22-10-2009, 08:37 PM
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Hi Guys (and Gals)

I noticed this thread and hope I can contribute. We have been running an option on our forum for a couple of years to do this and it is very useful. I use it all the time in my obs. Basically we have a "night vision mode" option for our members when they are surfing our forums (one click of the mouse).

IceInSpace uses the same forum software as MyAstroSpace and I'd be happy to email the files over. It would just be a case of uploading them to the server and the option would be enabled (you'd also need to change the colour of the IceInSpace banner at the top, but that would only change in night vision mode).

Mike PM me for my phone number and I can walk you through if need be.

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Old 23-10-2009, 11:53 AM
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Thanks Raydar but that wont quite work. It may be the same forum software but it's certainly not the same style. CSS from another site is not something that can be plugged in and expect to work. We're in the process of a redesign at the moment. I'll be adding a red theme, it's no big deal.

But as someone already mentioned, a "red theme" is not red light as such, so the effect is not as good as actually using a red filter over the screen. A red theme is merely darker - better than white but not red, night vision friendly light.

But if you guys want red, you guys can have red. No worries
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Old 23-10-2009, 12:42 PM
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Mike PM me for my phone number and I can walk you through if need be.

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Hi Ray

Thanks but it's all under control.

Like Terry said, we'll include a red theme in the redesign if that's what people want, but if people are out at the scope observing, a proper red or ND filter will do a much better job.
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Old 24-10-2009, 12:16 PM
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After using couple of programs i have decided to use Red filter instead, it is difficult to get all the windows zoned unless the program is specifically designed for it.
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