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Old 25-12-2013, 02:24 PM
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Please tell me I have nothing to worry about with my tak

Hey guys, merry Christmas everybody.

Just noticed spots on the front lens of my Takahashi. Is this something to be concerned about? Or is it something that can be cleaned? Or is it nothing at all and I should enjoy Christmas and stop being paranoid .

Thanks and once again, merry Christmas.

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Old 25-12-2013, 02:30 PM
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New or second hand? Inside or outside surface?
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Old 25-12-2013, 02:32 PM
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New. I've owned it for about 18 months. Inside I think.
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Old 25-12-2013, 02:43 PM
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Did you store it in a dry environment (with silica gel or air con)?

It's unlikely to affect the views but if I were you I'd do something about it. If it was on the outside surface it's dead easy to clean off. I use Isopropyl alcohol and distilled water with lots of kleenex on my TOA - probably about once every year or two. There are a lot of articles around (Google) on how to clean refractor optics.

It's hard to say from the pictures but if it's on the inside surfaces, worst case, it could be mould spots. If so, you will need to return it to the factory for a clean.

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Old 25-12-2013, 02:49 PM
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How can you tell which side it's on? Just by looking? Is it worth the clean just to be sure?
Only been taken out a handful of times always stored in the house with a silica packet on the inside of the lens cover.
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Old 25-12-2013, 03:03 PM
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If it's on the inside then it won't come off when you clean it!

It's probably worth a test clean of the outside surface. Read up on how best to do this before you try it though. You'll see different opinions but best to make up your own mind. Always use distilled water to dilute the cleaning agent though (in my case Isopropyl - bought at Bunnings).
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Old 25-12-2013, 03:17 PM
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Small silica packs become saturated quickly and would not be sufficient in a humid environment. leaving the tube uncapped at both ends and covered with a cloth in an air conditioned house would be better, or store the scope in a dry box of some sort.

When cleaning be careful not to drag particles across the coatings and avoid getting too much solvent near the edge of the lens - it might wick around the edge and between the elements.

Looking at the objective from the side you should be able to see if the spots are on the front or rear surface. good luck with it all. Not a pleasant sight on an expensive refractor.
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Old 25-12-2013, 05:17 PM
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As I understand Silica Gel, it collects moisture. It doesn't make it go away.
It absorbs, not into the matrix of the crystal, but into the pores on the surface of the structure.
What I am saying is don't put the silica gel inside the lens cap because it's like laying a little pillow of water on your lens. Keep it in the case/box with the scope but, and here's the thing most people don't do: throw it out and replace it with new packs every now and then. Alternatively you can dry it out at a low temp in the oven and let it return to room temp and use it again. But eventually replace it.
I also don't know if 'moist' Silica Dioxide reacts with the coatings on the lens, or some component of the lens glass itself.
Good luck, I hope it is superficial and cleans off easily.
Although it doesn't look like tropical fungi, if it cleans off then check closely to make sure the coatings aren't damaged. It will appear as changes in the colouration where the problem 'thing' was. Don't try to clean it with more pressure. Rather return it for inspection to the dealer or an optical expert. It may need re-coating to bring it back to as new. Although visually you may not notice it and find it quite usable.
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Old 27-12-2013, 11:59 AM
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Thanks everybody for your help, I will try cleaning the lens in the new year.
After having a closer, non-panicked, look it seems to be on the outside so hopefully a quick clean will restore it to its full glory.
Also have to have a think about how I store the scope now as well.
Thanks again, hope everybody had a great Christmas and wishing everyone a happy new year.
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