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Old 09-01-2012, 04:31 PM
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Technology and Sci-Fi Movies

The advances in technology has surpassed some of the ideas in sci-fi movies.
Anyone who has watched some of the earlier movies must have seen evidence of this.
I smile at times when an operator (from the future) examines their monitor. A cathode ray tube driven screen instead of the "picture on the wall" monitor. Perhaps the lack of personal cell phones, a very handy communications gadget in a tight spot. Or an almost antiquated cable connected handset phone in the year 2050
"Computers of the future" Big Univac beasts is another. Sure, movie producers, directors and script writers make mistakes. The futuristic gadgets had not been invented yet. They certainly would be surprised how far short their "guesstinations" were if they saw the actual changes.

Dick Tracy seemed to be an exception, with his video wrist watch phone.

Perhaps the Sci-Fi movies of today may show how far short of the mark they are in twenty years. Time will tell.
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:46 PM
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Gene Roddenberry , of Star Trek fame was not far from the truth .
Triquarders , ( iPads now ) , communators , (cell phones now ) , mini skirts ( mini skirts now ) oops ,, and Phasers ,,, well not quite .
But yea Baddad I hear you , I love the old 50's and 60's sifi for that reason. .
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:53 PM
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[QUOTE=brian nordstrom; , mini skirts ( mini skirts now ) oops ,, and Phasers ,,, well not quite .
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Phasers, lasers near enough. What I find interesting is the speed of the phaser blast packet.Its so slow. Also it travels like a solid object to the target. I imagine a true phasor would be more like a beam. But that's movie licence.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:03 PM
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There are a number of web sites listing sci-fi tech bloopers

example

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/film-ui-bloopers.html

one sci-fi movie that did a good job of future tech IMO was Forbidden Planet (1957)
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:08 PM
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My all time favorite SIFI movie , Invisable T-Rex , awsome .
Among other things .
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There are a number of web sites listing sci-fi tech bloopers

example

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/film-ui-bloopers.html

one sci-fi movie that did a good job of future tech IMO was Forbidden Planet (1957)
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:11 PM
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That's a good one Trevor.
I'll enjoy reading that.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:16 AM
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Sometimes people do get it right, even if not in movies. I remember reading an article about 30 odd years ago that we would all be carrying a telephone in our pockets in the 21st, that could pinpoint us anywhere on earth down to a few metres. Not wrong there!

Some futurists have fairly accurately predicted the future, even if not in detail.

Maybe the movie studios should consult futurist more when making movies.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:30 AM
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William Shatner made a great doco........
Get it out on dvd or you tube it....
Here is a small 2 min start to it
How William Shatner Changed the World.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGyQVO62QM0

Love it!
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Cool , I definatly gonna find that , looks good and with humour
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Good one on W. Shatner. Bart.
My opinion may be shot down in flames here. Its in conjuction with Peter's post.
What I have observed was that Star Trek began around the time that several of the hi-tech gadgetry was on the horizon. IMHO The gadgets were already in the foresee-able future and the movie writers used the concepts.

Now the first generation Star Trek debuted in 1966. However the second one had its beginnings in 1987.

Re: Peter's post; I remember clearly reading a similar article on a Sunday in Townsville in 1978. Cell phones, Computers will be a household item like a TV. Best time to leave home to commute to work etc.

It was in the early 80's when "Electronics Australia" announced that TV's would become not much more than a "picture on the wall".

Before these announcements were made, sci-fi movie producers would have been aware of them. That would bring it into line with the timeline of the production of Star Trek and the gadgets becoming a real possibility.

What Star Trek did do was to recognise that people no longer were the uninformed movie goers of the 1950's. "Mars attacks" and such were just unrealistic. Movie buffs had become better educated to some of the facts of the Universe. Men from Mars was no longer accepted.
Warp speed space travel was necessary to negotiate the vast distances. I wont bore you with the rest of the list. The producers catered to a better educated audience.

To have done that I believe they had done their research and that is why Star Trek was the pedecessor to a series of successful sci-fi movies. It was kind of like looking into the future and the hi-tech stuff about to explode onto the market.

Star Trek was depicted to be an exploration vessel in the 23rd century.
Does kind of make it feasable.
Quality astro gear and hi-tech toys were coming within easier reach of the general populace. This had a two fold affect. Better education and an enquiring audience.

After the debut of "Star Wars" I watched a news crew interviewing members of the audience. Many loved it. It was refreshing. One silly bloke said, "You don't expect me to believe all that crap? That's far from real that stuff." (An unbeliever )

I saw Avatar a few times. I have tried to imagine what its impact would have been like in the 1950's. It is quite advanced from the days of even movies like Star Wars.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:05 AM
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Some interesting concepts here.
If we go back 50 years (1960's) portable comunication was by radio but we as ham operators were using repeaters that gave us very wide range.
But don't forget walky-talkies were used during WW2(70 years ago)
40 years (1970's) we had GPS (transit satellites). Packet radio was being developed which became cell phones. The sci fi from the 1960's would have known about the develpment of these and some would have forecast what we have today.

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Good point Barry. Reading your post reminded me of a school debate subject.
The actual wording escapes me. Technology lags behind theoretical science.
The concepts are about 10 years old by the time the products go into manufacture. Which more or less agrees with what has been written here.

WW11 Walkie-talkies. Huge beasts. Very thirsty on batteries. Its reasonable that they are the predecessor to cell phones. Particularly with the support of the repeater stations network.

However it still needed the high speed switching and logic systems of computers to operate. Yes, the earliest I know of such a system being developed was in the early 80's. Telstra had informed its technicians of the concept.
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WWII Walkie talkies were big because the batteries were useless.
Back in the eighties the mobile phone was in a box the size of a lunchbox. Once again because the batteries were poor -
I have a Lithium Ion powered drill - it can drive batten screws into dry hardwood.
Paint on solar cells are a reality.
So why haven't we got lithium ion powered cars painted with solar cells?
Profit - work for mechanics ....
Note how Kodak are now going belly up
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Why is every house for that matter not painted with solar cells, answer

NCP > CP = LOP+U(D+I)=BOS=IT

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Old 10-01-2012, 11:59 AM
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care to expand on that?
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When Non chargeable power > Chargeable power = Loss of profit + Unemployment(direct and indirect)=burden on society=increased taxes

already in WA people without solar power are subsidising people with (who get a rebate) via higher electricity charges

There are many examples IMO where technological improvements have been stiffled for want of a better word because of it's social and economical implications.

My opinion

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