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Old 05-11-2011, 10:28 AM
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First night out!

So I got my 8" dob out last night, luckily there were not as many clouds as the night before. Decided to clear out for my birthday I think

I pretty much winged it, because I just wanted to get some viewing in ASAP, as I had been working, missing out on my first go!

I saw the Moon in GREAT detail! Absolutely loved it.
Then I decided to look at a really bright, possible star or planet that I'd seen earlier in the week. I'm pretty sure it was just a light on the mountains, incredibly bright though for some reason, and huge, not sure why it's there.
But I could see details on those mountains in the trees etc that I couldn't even hope to see with my naked eyes, it just looked like a blob with my eyes lol

Then I looked at another bright star, which turned out to be Jupiter!
I could see the 4 moons, and Callisto was further out than I expected.
They really just looked like really small/far away stars, I was surprised at how bright they were! I could even see the "rings" (Layers, not rings of rocks, don't know what you guys call them).
There was no colour at all to it really, just grey and white. But the viewing condition weren't ideal either.
Do you think I could expect colour with an 8" in good conditions?

I also found some other cool stars, just looking for the brightest ones by eye and then finding them in the scope by relation to the other stars.
Figured out how to collimate my finder scope by myself also, was really easy. At least I hope I'm doing it correctly lol
I just adjusted the screws, which moved it around, and aligned the crosshair with what I was seeing in the telescope.

Was really fun, I spent about 2 hours or so out there, felt like 20-30 minutes haha

I did find it a bit annoying with the Dob mount though. It does move with about a few millimetre give. Like I was trying to centre Jupiter in my eyepiece and it kept moving back to where it was before, when I was only moving it a few mm. I might be able to fix that somehow though. I also didn't like how easily it spun around, moved a lot when I was focusing and aligning the finder scope etc.

One question.... What is the highest magnification eyepiece you would use on an 8-inch?
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Old 05-11-2011, 10:50 AM
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Great stuff TomTom, glad to hear you had a good night out! The Moon so often gets ignored but it's an absolute wonder in its own right for observers. Nice description of Jupiter and moons too. The 'rings' are usually called 'bands'. As far as colours go, it's very subtle and it is probably just something that will grow on you as you continue to observe, rather than being tied to particular conditions. As far as magnification goes, on planets, say, the conditions will dictate it. Might look good at low powers but when you zoom in the planet goes mushy and you find you can't focus properly. That will be the 'seeing' (atmospheric distortion). Then you might get that one magic night when you can keep zooming in, obtaining crisp focus & seeing very fine detail - it's what all observers hope for every time they set up! For deep sky, generally stick to lower powers except on tiny objects like planetary nebulae, or double stars etc. But play around with it to see what limits the light grasp of your scope will allow.

Look forward to more reports!

Cheers -
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:23 AM
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Ah yes, bands is the word I was looking for.

And I had forgotten, but I think I did see a double star. It was in really clear focus, so I don't think it was distortion or anything. Very exciting!

I will take your advice, I might pick up a higher power eyepiece soon just to see how it fares.

Cheers!
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Old 05-11-2011, 11:29 AM
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Hi Tom and well done on your first successful observing session.
Rob has some great advice there, listen to him as Rob is one of the best small scope observers out there. If going deep sky, mainly use your 25mm EP which will give you 48x. Doesn't sound much but most bright DSOs will be easily seen at that power. I do much of my observing at 67x and 113x in the 12" but even at 113x it needs reasonable seeing to give good views. Your 10mm EP will give 120x, as it has a small field of view being a plossl, will not get a lot of use.
The colours in Jupiter are subtle, I see lemony yellow in the lighter areas and sort of brown in the bands.
With the movement of the Dob, if it is the horizontal movement (azimuth), a couple of felt pads between the plates of the base can help smooth it out. If it is in vertical (altitude) make sure you have the aluminium knobs on the side in the correct position that the scope is balanced with an eyepiece in place. The brake on the action can be adjusted with these knobs and make sure it is not too tight. Play with them a little and get it just right and the motion will improve.
Glad you got the finder sorted out.

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Old 07-11-2011, 12:40 PM
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Congratulations tomtom. There is a vast sky out there to keep discovering and you've got a great instrument for doing it. And curiosity. Best way to go. Looking forward to more reports.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:30 PM
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Well done tomtom, sounds like you had fun. Your 25 and 10mm EP will give you plenty of enjoyment for a while. A couple of points from my own experience:
1. Buy good EPs (second hand ones from the trade section). Read as many reviews on them as you can (Cloudy Nights, Astromart etc). Try them out if you can get hold of some (where are you anyway?). It's false economy to buy 3 cheap EPs for the price of a good second hand EP as the good EP will last you for a very long time.
2. Double stars. One of the easiest double stars is Alpha Centuari, just "north-east" of the southern cross. A bright star, you can miss it. It will split with a 25mm easily.
3. Get hold of a star chart. You can download them over the net, showing you all the bright objects in the sky for the month. A couple of good reference books. I can highly recommend this one http://www.dk.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisp...ts_Ian_Ridpath You can get it for about $15-30 depending on where you buy it from.
Oh, happy belated BD!
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