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A bright spot on Venus

A bright spot has been discovered on Venus by an amateur Astronomer.
A report from the BBC website
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8179067.stm
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:02 AM
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Yes...heard about this not long after Anthony spied the spot. Very interesting phenomenon. Will be interesting to figure out what it is.
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:09 AM
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Another Amateur discovery!
Fantastic.
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:11 AM
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I must have missed it
It would be great if it was the result of volcanism
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Old 02-08-2009, 03:31 AM
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Exclamation Venus Atmosphere and Unlikely Volcanos

This is indeed a very interesting article, and is of personal interest to me.
The visibility of white spots and terminator anomalies on Venus have been observed almost back to the invention of the telescope in the 1840s.
Those interested might like to read a bit on the history of visual observations of Venus and the held belief in possibility of very high mountains. This is discussed in an article that once feature in the RASNZ journal "Southern Stars" in 2003. This is an article "Johann Schröter, William Herschel and the Mountains of Venus: Overview." at http://homepage.mac.com/andjames/PageVenus005.htm
As for this truly being caused by volcanism is very unlikely. At the latitude of the spot, there are mostly highlands. The highest mountain is about six or seven kilometres and is located on the Ishtar Plateau. However the size of the volcano to disturb the atmosphere this much would far exceed any that exist on the Earth, and considering the viscose nature of the atmosphere. To change it that much would take an incredible amount of energy to leave a mark this size. In probability, it would likely be some kind of upper atmospheric effect.
All so the 4 days quoted is interesting, as this is the circulation rate of Venus' atmosphere already confirmed by visual and satellite observations around the planet.
I've have seen spots like his one several occasions doing dichotomy of Venus observations years ago. They are not too rare, but no one as far as I know have had this confirmed by direct observation. needless to say, the Venus Express image is not visual but is in the ultra-violet. Visually, white spots are normally rather subtle - but at least reproducible and visible to multiple observers without doubt.
Be good to see where how long this effect lasts, as it might tell us more about the atmospheric of this somewhat bizarre planet.
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Old 02-08-2009, 03:43 AM
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I should have mention there is an article in how to spot such spots on Venus. This might be useful if someone might want to try to see it for themselves. http://homepage.mac.com/andjames/PageVenus002.htm

Sadly, Venus with its "open phase" 74% and increasing would mean it would be difficult to see along the marginal visual terminator. However the morning easterly elongation is about 40 degrees from the sun, and worst is the disk is merely 14 arcsec and also decreasing. Even observations in daylight of any surface features would be presently as difficult.
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Some further info...

I did a check on the mountain regions again, and there is no 'candidate' for this latitude.

Those interested in what observers might expect to see, the ALPO site showing drawings and images of Venus might be of some note.
http://www.alpo-astronomy.org/venus/recobs.html

Also those interested in investigating amateur projects of the planet Venus (and these are usually during the daytime!), might like to look at these webpages as well;

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...odylongid=1861

See the BAA Venus Section site for observation forms; http://www.take27.co.uk/BAA_MV/BAA_MVS.html
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Exclamation Venus Express Observation May Account for 'Spot'

Info on the "Venus Express" is at the ESA Site;

http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=64

This site is very useful regarding our knowledge about the planet Venus.

According to the Nature abstract (Nature, 456, pg.620-623 (4 December 2008) written by Titov, D.A. of the ESA ("Atmospheric structure and dynamics as the cause of ultraviolet markings in the clouds of Venus" http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/obj...objectid=43850), the ;

"...visible cloud top is located at a remarkably constant altitude of 72±1 km" and that "The cloud top descends to 64 km"

This suggest differences in brightness of the cloud patterns and observed heights are probably the cause of these brightness differences rather than any geological feature well below!
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