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Old 24-04-2016, 10:25 AM
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Life and Liberty in mono

I now have my STXL back from repairs and decided as a test run I would image NGC3576 again. In the interim I have washed the primary and reset the collimation again on the scope. I have been impressed by other renditions here taken with higher resolutions to the one I just did with the FSQ and thought it a good test to see if the collimation on the scope was ok or not. I think the collimation looks pretty good generally. I do really need to get a flattener for this scope, but balk at sending 3K+ on one from ASA.

This integration is only 3.5 hours and I will add a fully Hubble palette if I get time.

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Old 24-04-2016, 10:44 AM
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Nice image Paul,
It's an excellent scope -
yes the center stars are perfect while the ones in each corner
are slightly elongated.
I don't know if it's worth a flattener or not?

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Old 25-04-2016, 08:40 AM
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Wow! The contrast and sharpness in this image are a pleasure to see.

You've encouraged us to clean our primary mirror (which is looking alarming. Perhaps that will help with our contrast too.
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Old 25-04-2016, 11:56 AM
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Yeah that's real nice Paul. Remarkable detail in the brighter areas of 3576.

Top of the image corners show a tad more elongation than the bottom so I'd say you need to pack out the bottom of your camera a tad (.2mm). A bit of brass shim should even it out.

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Old 25-04-2016, 12:13 PM
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It is great that you got your camera back Paul. I admit I carefully compared your image to mine and I really like how your image is so sharp and stars are very tight.

Looking forward to the completed project Paul.
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Old 25-04-2016, 12:35 PM
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Nice image Paul,
It's an excellent scope -
yes the center stars are perfect while the ones in each corner
are slightly elongated.
I don't know if it's worth a flattener or not?

cheers
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Its just more for the sake of perfection than anything else. I have been advised about some software that will deal with the corners so I will give that a go.

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Wow! The contrast and sharpness in this image are a pleasure to see.

You've encouraged us to clean our primary mirror (which is looking alarming. Perhaps that will help with our contrast too.
I noted that my images were starting to suffer from what looked like progressive fogging over the course of a night. So one task was to eliminate all the possible causes of this occurrence. So far this seems like this was the problem.

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Yeah that's real nice Paul. Remarkable detail in the brighter areas of 3576.

Top of the image corners show a tad more elongation than the bottom so I'd say you need to pack out the bottom of your camera a tad (.2mm). A bit of brass shim should even it out.

Greg.
This might well be the crop I used Greg. I have some shims but have found another issue looming where it looks like using the rotator is causing some tilt. I suspect something is not housed properly and will need a bit of a look in the coming weeks.

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It is great that you got your camera back Paul. I admit I carefully compared your image to mine and I really like how your image is so sharp and stars are very tight.

Looking forward to the completed project Paul.
I did likewise Suavi prior to posting my image. I noted that your image was quite sharp at the time of viewing it and was curious as to whether my image was of the same sharpness.
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Old 25-04-2016, 03:06 PM
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Fantastic detail, Paul! Hope the camera stays home and continues to perform this time.

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Old 25-04-2016, 07:49 PM
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Tack sharp Paul. The elongation in the corners looks pretty symmetric, so it doesn't look like collimation is an issue.
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Old 25-04-2016, 08:46 PM
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I now have my STXL back from repairs and decided as a test run I would image NGC3576 again...........

Feel free to comment how you wish.
Hopefully the camera will now give you some dependable service !

In any event, I like the fact that you got the "twister" in the bright cloud section. Should make a great image when done!

I'm not sure about the veracity of getting a flattener that is not designed for the scope. Both my AP & Alluna flatteners need to be with 1-2mm for optimum results...and I have difficulty seeing how the optical curves can match otherwise.
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A great image Paul. I think Ms Liberty is displayed very well in all her grandeur.
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Old 27-04-2016, 08:57 AM
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Pinpoint stars and really sharp details. Very cool shot.
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Old 27-04-2016, 10:01 AM
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That's awesome resolution Paul, you've gotta be happy with that!
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Old 27-04-2016, 05:46 PM
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Thanks guys for your comments. For a test image I am pretty happy with sharpness and detail. I actually think the collimation is better this time around too.

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Hopefully the camera will now give you some dependable service !

In any event, I like the fact that you got the "twister" in the bright cloud section. Should make a great image when done!

I'm not sure about the veracity of getting a flattener that is not designed for the scope. Both my AP & Alluna flatteners need to be with 1-2mm for optimum results...and I have difficulty seeing how the optical curves can match otherwise.
Yes let's hope for some duration of service now. Data looks clean in any event, so far so good.

I quite agree about buying a flattener from another manufacturer is going to be fraught with danger and very experimental. The trouble with the flattener is that Jim Sheng does not seem to want to produce a flattener. If only I could get hold of a cheap RCOS flattener. That might actually be reasonably close to the mark. Got one laying around?
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Old 29-04-2016, 04:33 PM
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If only I could get hold of a cheap RCOS flattener. That might actually be reasonably close to the mark. Got one laying around?
Sorry no. ....Can get you an Alluna one...but somehow I think it will be the wrong optic at decidedly the wrong price.
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Old 30-04-2016, 03:09 PM
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Its highly likely a Tak flattener would fix it. Experimental but likely in my experience flatteners are relatively flexible.

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