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Old 19-11-2013, 08:04 PM
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Tarantula Nebula Widefield

Hi folks,

Finally got rid of Melbourne's pesky clouds on Saturday night so had a go with the RC8 again This is more of a rough-n-dirty attempt as I was testing out a few things so not the best of images Images are the Stacked Ha, Stacked OIII, Rough edit and Final version.


Mount: NEQ6
Imaging Train: GSO CF RC8 - CCDT67 Reducer - OAG - FW - QHY9M
Guiding: Lodestar used with a TSOAG9, 2sec guiding
Ha - 300sec * 8 Subs
OIII - 300sec * 6 Subs
Image processing: Captured in Maxim 5, Stacked in DSS, Edited in Photoshop CS6

R:G:B -> Ha : (Ha+OIII Average) : OIII

I have no darks and 300sec (5min) is nowhere long enough to get the finer details so is a little noisy. I also believe I have lost some dynamic range because of how aggressively I stretched it. Plus my focus seems a bit off, which is frustrating because it looks great with the Bahtinov mask and then is always slight fuzzy! Anyways any feedback would be great

Thanks for reading and as always, clear skies!
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Old 19-11-2013, 08:31 PM
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Hi Meru, these are really nice shots. I think you have done a really good job of capture and processing. Colours look good too. Well done!

No chance of getting any imaging done here for a while, nothing but rain and clouds.
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Old 19-11-2013, 11:05 PM
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I think they are quite good myself.....nice colour.....good wide field shot.

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Old 21-11-2013, 05:20 PM
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Hi Rex,
Thank you I would have loved to do deeper subs and know how to use astro-processing software but for now I'm all old school on photoshop hehe. I hope the weather picks up for you, you had some great images with your 8".

Thanks Col,
I never realised there was this much Ha floating around in that area. I heavily biased the colour to the Red & Blue as I prefer the look of that palette (For when I have no SII).

FYI if anyone wishes to have a go at processing it themselves for a bit of fun, here are the links to the unedited, dark-subtracted stacked images
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...a%20Nebula.zip

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Old 21-11-2013, 05:54 PM
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Hi Meru,

Are you able to upload them as fits files? the Tif files don't seem to open in Startools or in Maxim.
I can open it in paint, but then its 8 bit.

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Old 21-11-2013, 06:58 PM
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Yup, I've just changed the links in my last post (I removed the tif images)
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Old 22-11-2013, 08:12 AM
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There seems to be an issue with the links (Error 404) if you click directly.

I find that if you copy the link and open a new tab/window and go from there, it will work fine
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Old 22-11-2013, 09:55 AM
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nope, doesn't work.
did you click on that link icon. that would copy the url to your clipboard.
good test is if you open it in a different browser.

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Old 22-11-2013, 10:24 AM
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Ah damn this is proving to be a PITA. I copied the public URL as it said to do so (the link icon) and I have mixed success. I'll see if I can work something out
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Hi Meru,

I had a play with the jpg's you'd attached to this thread so this is very rough stretch in startools, but shows there's a lot of data in there and details that can be brought out. core is blown out as this is from the stretched image.

The linear fits will be needed to avoid blowing out the core as that is quite a bright area.
some HDR should yield good results as well.

very nice though for just 35 mins.

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Old 22-11-2013, 01:00 PM
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Hi Alistair,

Thank you and that's very nice, lots more detail. The ones that I uploaded were stacked but unedited; they were stretched harder like yours and then combined to give the RGB image. I'd like to see what RGB version you could come up with using startools or PI! Once I get the fits uploaded properly of course
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Alright link updated; in a zip file now
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Your focus looks spot on to me. Remember, the images are considerably magnified when you look at them on your screen. I have my screen set
to 125%, and the images look pretty good, but when I lower the mag to
100% or 75 or 50, they get better and better; up to 75 they are pin sharp,
great job.
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Old 24-11-2013, 08:34 PM
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Thanks Raymo,
That is a good point! I feel alot better now I suppose I'm looking for tack sharp focus even at 100% but that will take some time - I have still have a little curvature (mis-collimation) and it was windy so it bounced a little.
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Hi Meru,

I had a play with your HA image in pixinsight.

Link to larger version (10mb)
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Hi,

Here's my quick attempt with startools.
There's more that can be brought out but I left it at this to control noise.
still learning the ropes!!

Larger version here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/he2ljex6su...Startools1.png

Very interesting to play with this target as it has a wide variation in intensity/lum.
it would benefit from dark subtraction though.

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Wow! That's very impressive guys, had no idea there was that much data. Guess using PS is a bit like being a caveman hey Definitely could do with some noise reduction, so I've updated the links again and are now dark-subtracted with 10 frames. Just used the standard median stacking method.

I would like to see if either of you could make a composite RGB like how I did, and see how out results differ! I might have a shot with star tools, though it's a little bit of a learning curve using a new image software
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Glad you got some help with processing. It's a very good image. At first look I thought there is much more detail in there. Then reading on...
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Hehe thanks Rowland, it's amazing how deceptive subs can be!
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