Yes, thanks for that...I do own a 6mm Orion Edge-On Planetary and it is an excellent eyepiece for $129 (or there-a-bouts); might be best to stick with their Edge On range until I can afford Televue's! The Orbinar I was using in a 60mm refractor, I got rid of that eyepiece before I bought my 8" Dob...it wouldn't even be worth trying it out! Might put my Orion to use on Jupiter tonight.....