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Old 05-05-2006, 02:11 AM
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1st run with the new ToUcam.

Well

Today a parcel turned up on the front door and the guy holding it said it was from Tasmania....maybe he doesn't get to deliver many parcels from there . I was certainly happy to see it as it was my new ToUCam from David Pretorius...thanks again David

Anyway, clears skies and my eagerness to jump in the deep end combined to have me out road testing it last night (4/05).

I started out with the moon as soon as I had the scope in place and the result is below. This was done so I could learn how to actually capture an avi. The pic below is a simple load of the avi into registax and a stack and process until it looked OK. The avi shows up the waves of heat coming from my mirror so I decided to leave it for a while.

Later I came out and stuck the 8mm Radian in the scope and the view of Jove was reasonable, so I decided to give the camera a go. I quickly learned that there is a big difference between finding the moon and finding Jupiter through the camera without tracking and using my finder scope. Assuming the camera is the same as a 6mm eyepiece, this equates to 315x in my scope. David P's tutorial was ringing in my ear...align your finder and align it again. Unfortunately, my finder is only a 6x30 which makes it harder I imagine to use than a 9x50. I did eventually get it to go through the camera field and one of those avi's was stacked and is presented below. As you can see, with the native camera the image scale is a bit small. The image is just over 100 frames stacked. I haven't bothered to process the avi's of any of these shots and they may benefit from the removal of some frames.

Even though I was having 'fun' without tracking, I decided to throw in the 2x shorty plus barlow to see how hard I could make it. When I finally located and quickly focused I managed about 5 passes. These avi's averaged about 50 frames for the 10 frames / sec and 25 frames for the 5 frames / sec. The first of the two barlowed shots is at 10fps and the second is at 5fps. These are simply the avi loaded into registax, stacked, and then processed to try and bring out the detail. Again, some processing of these images to remove the blurry images might improve them a little. When stacked the images were still a bit dim. Unfortunately there was not short enough time between shots to join the avis and increase the available frames.

The moon shot was the only one to be resized (75%). The other images are at their native scale, just cropped.

I think it is a resonable start given the amount of learning I was doing - will have to spend some more time on focus and tracking, and perhaps selectively preprocessing the avi's before stacking.

Thanks for looking, and as usual...advice is always welcome.
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:06 AM
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I think you had better give up now and send me the camera, it doesnt look as though your going to get it

All seriousness aside, Great images there, looks like we have some more competition on our hands, can't wait to get my toucam and start playing around with it. Keep em coming.
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Old 05-05-2006, 06:36 AM
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Wow! Your first run with a ToUcam and that's what you produce!? !?!?!?!

That's incredible Andrew.. definitely a deserving winner, look at that progress!

The last 2 are just incredible.. the seeing was good, but first time without tracking with jupiter flying through the FOV! I'm speechless.

My only comments are that the limb looks a tad too darkened on the last 2.. too much reduction in gamma/curves, or not enough exposure during capture?

Can you zip up the set of avi's for one of the last 2? How big is it? Can you email it to me?
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Old 05-05-2006, 07:27 AM
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Theres something wrong with that camera! Terrible pics....You need to send it forthwith to Asi-jealous, C/O There-better-than-mine, Gonna-wring-Daves-neck Street for warranty purposes!!

Mike, settle down mate, they ain't that good!

Wow! Great job Andrew! Their bloody fantastic for a first run with a toucam!
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Old 05-05-2006, 07:43 AM
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I must be doing something wrong I'd better sell the lot and get a 12" Dob.

Great shots Andrew. It looks like there is another dobber in our midst who is a natural with Jupiter.


You guys in Brisvegas got some great seeing last night. Congratulations on first light for the new camera.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:10 AM
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Fantastic Effort Andrew, now all you need is a competition with some tracking gear as the prize....
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:30 AM
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What a great set of images for your first light with the ToUcam - you must be as pleased as punch!

Well done Andrew!

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Old 05-05-2006, 08:37 AM
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thanks phil for your kind offer of a G-11 as a prize.

well, i feel very very happy and very proud...

these are fantastic, best first up toucam images i have seen!

these are worthy of three nude struts around the block, if the cops pull you up, pull out these pics, and they will understand immediately and even give you an escort.

well done
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:48 AM
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Thanks for the replies.

Comp sounds great...I don't think I can mount my truss dob on a G11 though - maybe ServoCat would be a better prize

I think I definitely got lucky with the conditions...maybe the astro gods didn't realise the webcam was for astronomical use - therefore leaving the clouds away!

I am happy with the results - was wondering how comparable they would be. I am certainly happy they were better than my handheld shots , just need to get more time with the settings and aligning of Jove into the barlowed field of view.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:53 AM
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Thats brilliant Andrew.

Taking into fact what equipment your using and its your first images with the toucam.....Damien Peech is getting worried.
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:27 PM
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WOW!

Fantastic results!!!
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:52 PM
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So Andrew, will that be at Duckadang? Well done
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:16 PM
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sweet start andrew
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Old 05-05-2006, 03:22 PM
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Will what be there?

The scope will be, the camera will be, but I'm not sure the picture will be - not when compared to Dennis's efforts from last night.

Maybe some of future shots will - when I can sort out a better alignment method for gettin jupiter to enter the camera's field of view. This was easy with the eyepiece, but not so easy with a camera. I spent most of my time outside starring at a black screen. When I managed to get jupiter in the field it was rather exciting, but usually it wasn't in a good place to capture. I think I need to 'lube' up the ebony star somehow to make the movements every so slightly smoother.
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