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10-04-2010, 10:03 AM
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ATMer and Saganist
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Does the Shaky Camera craze annoy you
Every show you watch on TV nowadays seems to have this
'Shaky Camera' technique, sometimes being so over the top
it is outright comical.
Here's a Wiki explanation of it and some insight into it's
origins. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaky_camera
and another:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...shaky%20camera
In some of the CSI type dramas on TV they even use telephoto
quick zooms in/out and deliberate out of focus errors to
give some sort of immediacy and handheld live documentary feel
to it.
I find it irritating and usually turn it off. 
Am I officially a grumpy old man?
Why is everything on TV catering to such low attention span
viewers?
Thoughts anyone?
Steve
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10-04-2010, 10:46 AM
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Meteor & fossil collector
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Must say, it annoys the hell out of me too! You don't need to shake a camera around in oroder to convey excitement, ducumentary style, ad- hoc or whatever other descriptions take your fancy. I find it annoying at best and generally unnecessary. Any films done in this style will date so quickly. Like "real life" shows, I think it has outlived its usefulness and it is time for the guys to move on to something better.
In real life, you would be locked up if you spun your head around from person to person, grabbing a bit here and there.
Save up your pennies guys and buy a TRIPOD!
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10-04-2010, 11:47 AM
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Did you watch Blair Witch? Entirely hand held and we were seasick by the end.
Steadycam is much easier to watch, and is much more like what you see if you are there. Your mind takes out the shake.
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10-04-2010, 12:01 PM
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ATMer and Saganist
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I wonder if, like noise cancelling headphones, you could get
shake-twist-zoom cancelling glasses and try to enjoy a fillum
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10-04-2010, 12:10 PM
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Like to learn
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetic
I wonder if, like noise cancelling headphones, you could get
shake-twist-zoom cancelling glasses and try to enjoy a fillum 
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10-04-2010, 12:30 PM
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Is that as bad as the grossly over saturated colours, excessive colourisation and dynamic range that you also see in CSI ?
Either way too much of anything is a poor excuse for good movie making I think.
Is this the same as casting only 8-10/10 female models/actors in movies too ?
Dont worry about their acting skills - so long as they look allright - she'll be right ! (pun intended)
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10-04-2010, 01:27 PM
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I watched Cloverfield on my flight over to Europe.
lol, that was an experience.
Personally, I don't mind it so much.
H
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10-04-2010, 01:32 PM
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The Observologist
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Hi Steve,
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetic
I find it irritating and usually turn it off. 
Am I officially a grumpy old man?
Why is everything on TV catering to such low attention span
viewers?
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(1) So do I for the same reason.
(2) Yes you are.
(3) Because a substantial number of T.V viewers have very low attention-spans ... Duh?
Best,
Les D
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10-04-2010, 01:48 PM
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Look up, look good!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rally
Is that as bad as the grossly over saturated colours, excessive colourisation and dynamic range that you also see in CSI ?
Either way too much of anything is a poor excuse for good movie making I think.
Is this the same as casting only 8-10/10 female models/actors in movies too ?
Dont worry about their acting skills - so long as they look allright - she'll be right ! (pun intended)
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Leave CSI alone - especially CSI Miami - the acting as awesome and having David Caruso as the dirty perv detective is great!
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10-04-2010, 02:26 PM
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pro lumen
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Steve you just need to give up trying to watch crap tv
no goods going to come of this , soon you'll find yourself watching
reality cooking shows washed down with a little ..So you think you can dance ... and by then its to late to get help !
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10-04-2010, 03:04 PM
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ATMer and Saganist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ngcles
Hi Steve,
(1) So do I for the same reason.
(2) Yes you are.
(3) Because a substantial number of T.V viewers have very low attention-spans ... Duh?
Les D
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Thanks Les..., guys
Les:
(1) cheers, at least I'm not alone in this 
(2) I am not grumpy!  
(3) ohh look....shiny, cute emoticons above!
Steve
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10-04-2010, 04:18 PM
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Teknition
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ngcles
Hi Steve,
(1) So do I for the same reason.
(2) Yes you are.
(3) Because a substantial number of T.V viewers have very low attention-spans ... Duh?
Best,
Les D
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Hi Steve, Hi Les,
I was intending to say the same as what Les has posted but in a more subtle way.
1. I don't tolerate it at all.
2. Bad TV programs do that to learned persons.
3. Learned persons are a minority. Conversely, short attention spanned persons are a majority. Money talks and therefore the majority rules.
  
Understanding why just does not make it any easier to accept.
Cheers Marty
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11-04-2010, 08:01 AM
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2'sCompany3's a StarParty
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Steve, Les,
You're right!! We are grumpy ole men.
We've earned it!! 
Unfortunately TV has lowered itself with all these reality shows, it only caters for those with loooowwww a t t e n ti o n......... s p a n s.
What are we talking about..................   :l ol: 
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12-04-2010, 01:38 AM
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I suppose they've got to do something to try and compensate for the lousy screen play and story line.
A good story should carry itself and really shouldn't need all the frills to keep a viewer amused or interested.
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12-04-2010, 03:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MLyons
I suppose they've got to do something to try and compensate for the lousy screen play and story line.
A good story should carry itself and really shouldn't need all the frills to keep a viewer amused or interested. 
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A good storyline?? You gotta be kidding, right?? I don't think I've seen an original, good storyline for 20years or more!!
I just about refuse point blank to watch any TV at all, it is just c**p! Growing up in the bush will do that to you, too. Makes you find something better to do.
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12-04-2010, 06:06 AM
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avandonk
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I agree totally with the original post. I use the best device on the planet available to me to produce the screenplay. It is called reading a book! The device is your brain!
Bert
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12-04-2010, 09:26 AM
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I have detailed files....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rally
Is that as bad as the grossly over saturated colours, excessive colourisation and dynamic range that you also see in CSI ?
Either way too much of anything is a poor excuse for good movie making I think.
Is this the same as casting only 8-10/10 female models/actors in movies too ?
Dont worry about their acting skills - so long as they look allright - she'll be right ! (pun intended)
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HEAR HEAR!!!
I cannot watch CSI - "Anything" anymore as I cannot stand the primary colours and shades of orange, blue and green "themed" in every scene! Makes me sick.
Add the fact that every police officer and Medical Examiner drives around in $60000+ USD cars and examine bodies in swamps wearing Armani suits and it just gets ridiculous. I would love to take a tour of the multi BILLION dollar Artistically designed and furnsihed Miami Dade PD and just see how much it looks like the screen version, doubt it! And the music video sequences when they do "forensic" work are just nauseating. Imagine..."Daddy, I want to grow up to be a Forensic Investigator so I can take 22 seconds with rock music in the background to find evidence using million dollar machines which extract DNA and match it to massive databases in 15 seconds and all the computers make stupid blippy noises when the information scrolls down the screen"
Now, before everyone canes me with how its supposed to be entertainment blah blah blah.....come on... I know its built for American brains and is all flashy and purile to be able to entertain mind numbingly stupid people, but really...
I noticed and despised camera shake on one of the first shows to use it, NYPD Blue and it just took off from there. Drives me insane.
Right. That's how I feel about all this.
/endrant
Cheers
Chris
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12-04-2010, 12:35 PM
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Support your local RFS
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Have to agree with Steve as well, this shaky cam thing is annoying.
It's usually hurting my eyes by the end of the show.
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12-04-2010, 01:03 PM
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Registered User
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How does it annoy you guys?
You don't actually WATCH  the shows in question, do you???  
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12-04-2010, 01:32 PM
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I have detailed files....
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Not any more Molly, not any more.
Just saw this nice warm bandwagon rolling by and I thought I might hitch a ride.
Cheers
Chris
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