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Old 04-08-2016, 09:47 PM
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Hourglass close-up

In our recent 17 hour SHO lagoon, the Hourglass was slightly burned out. Last night, waiting for our main target to come up, we did 3 x 10 min subs in each channel, and processed to show maximum detail in the tiny hourglass.

Processing: Median combine, zero point to foothill of histogram, rough colour balance, separate into stars and starless background, working starless make background colour neutral, wavelet sharpen, add back H-alpha stars as white. All in GoodLook 64 .

Here is a tight crop (0.55 sec arc/pixel) around the Hourglass.

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Old 04-08-2016, 09:58 PM
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In our recent 17 hour SHO lagoon, the Hourglass was slightly burned out. Last night, waiting for our main target to come up, we did 3 x 10 min subs in each channel, and processed to show maximum detail in the tiny hourglass.

Processing: Median combine, zero point to foothill of histogram, rough colour balance, separate into stars and starless background, working starless make background colour neutral, wavelet sharpen, add back H-alpha stars as white. All in GoodLook 64 .

Here is a tight crop (0.55 sec arc/pixel) around the Hourglass.

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MnT
Looks good to me guys

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Old 05-08-2016, 06:14 AM
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You mean the hour glass isn't supposed to be pure white?

Nicely done MnT :-)
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Old 05-08-2016, 08:06 AM
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Now that's close. Aperture rules here. Detail is nice MnT.
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Old 05-08-2016, 02:38 PM
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You mean the hour glass isn't supposed to be pure white?

Nicely done MnT :-)
Cheers, Colin! The SHO colours seem to be in the same place as in the Hubble shot, which is gratifying.

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Now that's close. Aperture rules here. Detail is nice MnT.
Thanks, Paul. Tempting to try dropping this tiny hourglass over the top of the burned out 17 hour lagoon version.
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Old 05-08-2016, 04:59 PM
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That's really nice there Mike. Aperture rules eh?

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Old 05-08-2016, 10:12 PM
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Weeeelll...not bad...I would be keen to see even more detail from a1/2 metre mirror ..Hmmm? Any chance you might try a comercial image processing package..??

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Old 06-08-2016, 09:06 AM
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That's really nice there Mike. Aperture rules eh?

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Thank Greg. At least as Colin said, it's not all white.

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Weeeelll...not bad...I would be keen to see even more detail from a1/2 metre mirror ..Hmmm? Any chance you might try a comercial image processing package..??

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Hi, Mike. You are right that it could be yet better. Love to blame it on the processing, but ordinary seeing (4.2 pixels or 2.3 sec arc FWHM), inexpert collimation, and only 3 subs are probably also in there. We checked the collimation and the secondary tilt is right, but we probably need to do something about the primary-to-secondary spacing. The best thing would be to pick a better night.

Your ultra-close-up, and Rick Stevenson's shot, both show more detail. I was impressed by your observation that the little star just next to the hourglass is actually a double. I thought I saw it as a double very clearly at one point during processing the H-alpha, and thought that it was an artifact. On further examination, I think what I was seeing was a tiny patch of nebulosity between the star and the hourglass. So something different to what you saw.

Here is a rather over-roasted, wormy, attempt to wring out the very last drops to see what might be there in the H-alpha.

Anyone know of other good non-burned-out amateur hourglasses?
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Old 06-08-2016, 10:18 AM
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Good shot - close up and personal for sure!
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Old 06-08-2016, 01:05 PM
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Really nice to see an hourglass not to burnt out some nice detail in there given the scale. Seeing is a real drag of late averaging 3.5 to 4.5 at my place near newcastle.
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Old 07-08-2016, 02:44 PM
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Good shot - close up and personal for sure!
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Really nice to see an hourglass not to burnt out some nice detail in there given the scale. Seeing is a real drag of late averaging 3.5 to 4.5 at my place near newcastle.
Thanks muchly Tim and Michael.

Had a go at combining this version (with Hourglass not burned out) with the 17 hour deep version that shows faint outer features. Just can't be done. Hourglass, outer features, overall relationship: pick any two.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:11 PM
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Looks great Mike. Some serious image scale. Really nice details in the hour glass. Goodlook rocks.
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:35 PM
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Looks good, M&T... even the colours, despite my usual dislike of green
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Old 07-08-2016, 06:51 PM
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Told ya!...
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:51 PM
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Looks great Mike. Some serious image scale. Really nice details in the hour glass. Goodlook rocks.
Thanks muchly, Marc. Good to hear from you!

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Looks good, M&T... even the colours, despite my usual dislike of green
Thanks, Rick. Struggled to bring out much SII. It's just possible that some cloud came through during the SII shots.
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