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Old 05-09-2014, 03:01 PM
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F1 - Monza Qualifying 6 Sep 2014 21:30 AEST ONE HD

Coverage of the F1 Qualifying Session at Monza is on this Saturday
starting at 21:30 AEST on ONE HD.

Coverage of the race itself is on Sunday starting at 21:40 AEST on TEN.

With highs of 27C predicted along with storms both for the Saturday &
Sunday, it will make conditions interesting.

The braking zone up to the Variante del Rettifilo chicane and the
chicane itself, which is at the end of the main straight, is always a
tight squeeze at the start and regular viewers will appreciate it is
rarely without an incident.

If it is raining, whoever gets through the chicane first and leads the pack
can have a major tactical advantage, as the spray coming off the back
of cars doing 330 km/h makes for a formidable hindrance to those
trailing.

All eyes of course will be on the two Silver Arrows where they are
expected to be quick on this high-speed circuit and another
chapter will play out in the Rosberg-Hamilton championship battle.

Many of us will be hoping that Daniel Ricciardo triumphs again.
There is now no doubt he is one of the very best drivers on the track
and has shown better form in 2014 than Vettel, Alonso, Button and Räikkönen.
The number of wins and points also reflects this.

Daniel has stated that the Red Bull won't be as well suited at Monza as it
will be at Suzuka and Singapore but that the Silver Arrows have been
quick everywhere. With rain predicted, he might still get lucky.

We wish him well!
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Thanks Gary, I will be watching for sure, I even look at the interactive timing on the practice sessions. Unfortunately, no one that I know of does live telecasts of these.
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Dont forget Vettel won his first GP in a Torro Rosso at Monza in the wet!
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Thanks Gary, I will be watching for sure, I even look at the interactive timing on the practice sessions. Unfortunately, no one that I know of does live telecasts of these.
Good one Peter!

If you have a tablet or smartphone and purchase the official F1 timing
app it provides additional data and features that the free online web
based timing app doesn't have.

For the Android version you need a relatively recent version of Android.

For example, it provides multiple timing screens including showing
sector times, what tyres they have used and are
currently using, whether they were new or used, how long a stint they
have done on a set, there's a pannable, tiltable and zoomable
graphic of the track that shows where each car is, what speed it is
doing, what gear it is in and there is also an audio commentary and much more.

A couple of our US observing visitors that I befriended earlier this
year are F1 fans and they told me in the States they watched televised
practice sessions I think they said on Speed TV. They had homes both
in Sydney and California and they said they missed the extensive
US cable TV coverage of F1 whenever they were here.
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Thanks Gary, I have an ipad, don't suppose you have a link to it do you
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Thanks Gary, I have an ipad, don't suppose you have a link to it do you
Hi Peter,

http://www.formula1.com/app/

From there, select the iTunes App Store in the pulldown and press Visit Now.

Alternatively, search for "Official F1: in the iTunes store.
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Thanks Gary much appreciated.
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I used to run the official timing app in the UK for the 2010 season I think, it was slightly frustrating as it was out of sync with the TV feed, however I think this was the TV coverage fault rather than the app!

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I used to run the official timing app in the UK for the 2010 season I think, it was slightly frustrating as it was out of sync with the TV feed, however I think this was the TV coverage fault rather than the app!

John
Hi John,

The last couple of years, here in Sydney, it has been pretty close.

Whereas the timing app data stream will most likely be coming by
undersea cables, the TV broadcasts are probably still being bounced off
satellites in high orbits so sometimes I have noticed a couple of seconds
delay.

For example, last week when they were at Spa and I am sitting here
in Sydney, I would glance at the app and see someone has come into
the pits a couple of seconds before they do on the TV screen.

One feature of the app is that you can also download any
practice, qualifying or race session's timing and re-play it, including the
track graphic showing where the cars are.

This is wonderful if you have been out observing whilst qualifying was
on.

At the bottom of the screen there is a sliding timeline like on a video
recorder and if you use the pause button and then hit the play button
as soon as Q1 starts, the two stay in synch whilst you watch it.
Since it is in realtime, if you don't fast forward through the ad breaks,
they will stay in sync to the end of Q3. Likewise for a race.

Peter I should have added that the app is only good for 2014.
So basically what you are getting for the price is the app and the data for
2014 including the ability to download sessions already held this year.
Though it is half-way through the season, unlike calendars at the
newsagent, they don't seem to charge any less.

So you will then need to purchase the 2015 app next year to
get coverage then.

The price this year was substantially less than last year.
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Gary, I get that the app shows live timing, not sure if you get the video feed as well for practice, quali and the race though. I reckon the price is pretty good really, I won't complain that is for sure if one gets a whole load of goodies with it.
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Gary,
Yes your right of course you can 'adjust' the real time of the app to compensate for any TV sync issues.

EXfso,
As far as I remember - and Gary may be able to answer this better - there is no video feeds built into the app unfortunately

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Gary, I get that the app shows live timing, not sure if you get the video feed as well for practice, quali and the race though. I reckon the price is pretty good really, I won't complain that is for sure if one gets a whole load of goodies with it.
Hi Peter,

The app doesn't provide video feed but does supply a limited audio feed whilst the session is on.

What I like are the features such as the screens that show tyre usage. If the tyre symbol is hollow it is a set of used. By watching the lap times in combination with the number of stints on someone's tyres you can do the arithmetic in your head when the tyres are likely to go off.
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Thanks Gary, I paid for the premium, had it running during FP3, pretty good I reckon.
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Go Dan, loved it when he passed Schmettel he he he...
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Go Dan, loved it when he passed Schmettel he he he...
As the commentators noted, his overtakes have been like a seasoned veteran.

The type of poise we use to see from the likes of Alonso.

He did that switch to the left and final overtake of Vettel so smoothly that
if you blinked you would have missed it.

I think I could hear astroron cheering from all the way down here in Sydney
when HAM took the lead after the mistake by ROS at the Variante del Rettifilo chicane.
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As the commentators noted, his overtakes have been like a seasoned veteran.

The type of poise we use to see from the likes of Alonso.

He did that switch to the left and final overtake of Vettel so smoothly that
if you blinked you would have missed it.

I think I could hear astroron cheering from all the way down here in Sydney
when HAM took the lead after the mistake by ROS at the Variante del Rettifilo chicane.
Gary,my neighbour has just come across to see what all the noise was last night.
It was a good race with some good wheel to wheel racing,as you say that overtaking by Dan on Seb was a classic.
Lewis must keep pressuring Nico if he is too win the championship.
It does seem a little disconcerting at the mechanical gremlins Lewis is having at crucial times. I thought he was like a terrier not letting go,the way he cought up with Nico after such a poor start was a lesson in determination.
Go Lewis
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A pity Botas didn't get a good start, he may have been able to challenge the Merc's. for second.
That was a nice move by Ricciardo on Vettel. At one stage he was 10secs behind Vettle and finished 9 secs ahead.
I wonder if Roseberg handed Hamilton the lead to make up for the last race. He seem to slow down to allow Hamilton to close the gap then seemed to not go as fast after that.

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I wonder if Roseberg handed Hamilton the lead to make up for the last race. He seem to slow down to allow Hamilton to close the gap then seemed to not go as fast after that.
Hi John,

Leading up to the overtake, I recollect they re-broadcasted a couple
of messages to Rosberg telling him to save on fuel.

As I turn up the volume to the audio feed on the F1 timing app during the
TV ad breaks, I don't recollect if I might have heard one of the calls on that feed.

Whenever there is a call to Rosberg re "hoagies" it appears to be a coded
message for a wheel setting associated with the fuel flow.

Hamilton had also already demonstrated a lap time in Q3 that was nearly
3/10ths up on his teammate, so he'd proven he could be quick here.

Then it appears Rosberg made a mistake.

In an article entitled "Deliberate? I just made a mistake, says Rosberg",
Reuters are reporting that :-

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Originally Posted by Alan Baldwin at Reuters

(Reuters) - Formula One leader Nico Rosberg felt sore enough at losing Sunday's Italian Grand Prix without then having to face conspiracy theories suggesting he had done it deliberately.

The Mercedes driver, who finished second after making a mistake at the first chicane while under pressure from winning team mate Lewis Hamilton, could scarcely believe anyone would suggest such a thing.

"I've heard about that, but what would be the reason for me to do something like that deliberately?," asked the German, who saw his lead cut to 22 points with six races remaining.

"There is no possible reason. There is no reason why the team would ask me to change position, or something like that.
Story here :-
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...ype=formulaOne
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I thought it was interesting that the Mercedes guys are using telemetered settings to communicate back to the pit wall about things like tyre condition. A good way to feed back useful data without broadcasting it to all your competitors.
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I thought it was interesting that the Mercedes guys are using telemetered settings to communicate back to the pit wall about things like tyre condition. A good way to feed back useful data without broadcasting it to all your competitors.
Hi Paul,

All the teams do that.

The cars are fitted with hundreds of sensors that wirelessly stream telemetry
data. Under FIA rules the flow of data can only be from the car to the team.
The data is compressed and encrypted and the networking infrastructure
is shared by the teams.

With the sensors taking measurements every couple of milliseconds the
amount of streaming data from one car in a race would be in the order of gigabytes.


Apart from the team members on the pit wall and inside the front of the
garage, now and then you will see on TV where they take you into the rooms
at the back of the garage where you will typically see ten or more people
staring at a barrage of computer monitors running realtime analysis of
the data.


The TV commentators often mention that the major teams such as the
likes of Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren and Mercedes will then typically
have a very large team of people back at the factory in locations
such as the Red Bull F1 headquarters in Milton Keynes in the UK scrutinizing the
data in realtime as well.

With advances in Microelectromechanical systems (MEMS) in the past
couple of decades, which are electronic devices with mechanical
parts fabricated on them using semiconductor manufacturing techniques,
the ability to provide a myriad of tiny sensors measuring parameters
such as temperatures, pressures and G-forces has resulted in big
changes in F1 car performance monitoring. Some of these same
breed of sensors are commonly used in applications such as smartphones
which has brought about an economy of scale.

The FIA even stipulates mandatory "accident sensors" that measure
G-forces and report straight back to the medical car in event of a crash.

I was watching a documentary recently where there is a trial of using similar
accident sensors in commodity road cars. When there is a crash, the sensors
determine the impact forces and can even detect how many passengers were
sitting in seats. This data along with your GPS co-ordinates then get automatically
transmitted by the car to the ambulance service and hospital. The trauma unit then
has a better sense of how many people may have sustained injuries and how bad
those injuries may be before the ambulance arrives. With many high speed crashes
resulting in internal organ injury, it is hoped such technology could help the surgeons save
more lives.

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