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Old 20-03-2013, 10:57 PM
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First Galaxy Shots

Well, I have attempted my first goes at galaxy photography and as can be seen below it all seems to have gone a little wrong. I think it may have something to do with the light pollution I had work with but I am not totaly sure.
First image is M83 SCT9.25 with a 6.3 reducer, I did not take flats at this stage and the vignetting was bad. I could only get 60 sec subs @ 1600 as any more drew in way too much light pollution and I was seeming to see less data the longer I left the shutter open, 3 minutes appeared to give me a total wash out (maybe I should have kept going at 3 minutes to see what I got). This is made from 60 x 60 sec subs, 24 mintues of darks, bias but no flats.

Image two is the same 60 subs but I took some flats the next day as I kept the image train in tact. It took away the vignetting but I tried a few times and could not get the same result I seem to have lost a lot of data. When I get the back ground dark enought for a good look the image gets a pastal like effect on an angle across the whole image from over processing and I do not get the same colours as in the first image.

My third image is of two of the Leo Triplets, could not get them all in at F6.3. Again I had to over stretch to get any data out it and it still ended up a little bland. Made up of 80 x 60 sec @1600 and 10 x 120 sec @800.

So all up not a good effort, not sure if its a problem with my data collection, may need a darker area, more exposure time and maybe need them to be higher in the sky. Or if it is what I doing with DSS and PS to get the final results. I did use the same technique as I used when working with m42 and Eta this could also be a mistake.

Overall I am not sure how to proceed with galaxy shots maybe I should not even be using a SCT for this any help would be great.

Carl
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Old 23-03-2013, 08:19 AM
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Faint galaxies are very difficult to imaging.

You are sure about flats- vignetting and light pollution in the first photo.

It seems you have the same colors with photo number 2, that is clean from light pollution. Here, it seems a lack of data to better colors.

The third would be your better photo, if less over stretched. They are very faint to show much colors and great shape with low time exposure time.
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Old 23-03-2013, 09:19 AM
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The moon is pretty bright for galaxy shots at the moment too - was it up at the time? All in all, pretty good for first galaxy shots (a lot better than mine!) - round stars, some nice detail in M83, albeit faint - but more exposure time should help....
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Old 23-03-2013, 05:14 PM
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Thanks very much for your replies and feed back.

Jorge, it looks like more data is in order. all images were taken on the same night the flats used on the second were also used on the third. They made a big difference, but I will get some better alignment and get more data for my next try. The weather here in Brisbane has been very ordinary so I squeezed in as much as I could. Thanks for the help

Lee, again thanks and more data seems to be the message expecting the same results as I was getting with M42 but I need to do a lot more to get the same result. The moon was probable at 20 degrees in the west at the time so yes It was there causing issues.

Thanks for helping

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Old 24-03-2013, 11:33 AM
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G'day Carl

I am just a beginner, so I can only offer praise/support rather than any quality advice.

I think it is a great start and you should be happy there considering the issues faced (i.e. moon and in Brisbane, surely some significant LP issues).

I have just started on DSO's this week and have found it to be a steep learning curve from a move from planetary and solar imaging. I am starting off with Nebula and when I get a bit more proficinent I will try my hand at galaxies.

Keep em coming and I will watch out for your new and improved images.

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Gav
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Old 24-03-2013, 11:23 PM
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Gavin,

Thanks mate, yes I too started with Nebula and some planetary, but I thought I was ready to take the leap. It is a lot more different from the Nebula than I thought it would be, but if there was no chalange it would not be a hobby. I think at the F10 I want for larger views I will have to get a lot more accurate with the little things..

Carl
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