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Old 13-11-2012, 01:23 AM
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Smile Delos 14mm and Nagler 13mm T6

Had second light with the Delos tonight in my 110mm refractor. Since I've bought a number of eyepieces recently I was keen to try them all out, and was particularly interested to compare the Delos with my most recent arrival, a 13mm Nagler T6. I bought the Nagler from an IISer in WA, and while it was in transit I bought the Delos 14mm. Until tonight I assumed I would be selling the Nagler since they are only 1mm apart, but not so...

I haven't learned my way around the southern sky particularly well so I concentrated on the obvious showpieces - e.g. the Tarantula nebula, 47 Tuc and, later, the Orion nebula. In each case I used the Delos first since it gives the lower magnification. And each time, with these bright objects, I preferred the view with the Nagler, probably because of the extra magnification.

I did some sweeping later on and came across two fuzzy objects in the same field with the Delos. I didn't have my star charts with me and even after coming home I'm not sure what they were. However, the important thing is that the view was better with the Delos. This time the slight extra magnification with the Nagler was enough to dim the image a bit too much.

So, to my surprise, I'll be keeping the Nagler as well as the Delos. It seems that sometimes a very slight change in power, just 1mm's worth, can be the difference between a good view and a great view.

Of course the Delos is more comfortable to use with its 20mm of eye relief, and is usable with glasses, which I feel I might need in the not-too-distant future. It's also a a fair bit heavier than my other eyepieces, so occasionally balance was a little bit off.

I'm very happy with both eyepieces.

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Old 14-11-2012, 10:05 AM
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Morton,

Its not just 1 mm difference that counts

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Old 14-11-2012, 12:09 PM
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Hi Bob,

That's a good point.

They are also very different in use. Although the Delos has the comfort factor of 20mm eye relief, I really enjoy using the Naglers, hence my quest to obtain more!
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Old 14-11-2012, 03:48 PM
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I wonder how my old T1 Nagler 13mm brick would fair with these 2 newbys ? My T1 13mm is an awsome 82 degree window into space abit a little heavy .. .hmmmm ?
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Old 16-11-2012, 01:12 PM
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I certainly love the small size of the Type 6 Naglers.
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Old 16-11-2012, 03:40 PM
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I certainly love the small size of the Type 6 Naglers.
I have the 11mm, 7mm and 5mm type 6s, and a 16mm type 5. They are so compact and so much easier to use than the original Naglers.
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Old 16-11-2012, 07:13 PM
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Yeah. Had an older 9mm a few years ago but didn't really care for it.
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Old 16-11-2012, 08:34 PM
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Yes they may be easier to use , but ( there is always a BUT ) is your scope/mount set up able to handle these T1's T2's and more to the point are these whipper snappers better than the origonals ? .
I was out at 2am this morning looking at Europa's shadow and moon transit , just above the GRS , using my 13mm T1 and it was awsome in my new 2415mm f/l , 210mm diameter scope ,, this eyepiece / scope combo is really good at 185x ,, . . hit the sack at 4am , great eyepiece and awsome viewing .
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I have the 11mm, 7mm and 5mm type 6s, and a 16mm type 5. They are so compact and so much easier to use than the original Naglers.
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Yes they may be easier to use , but ( there is always a BUT ) is your scope/mount set up able to handle these T1's T2's and more to the point are these whipper snappers better than the origonals ? .
I was out at 2am this morning looking at Europa's shadow and moon transit , just above the GRS , using my 13mm T1 and it was awsome in my new 2415mm f/l , 210mm diameter scope ,, this eyepiece / scope combo is really good at 185x ,, . . hit the sack at 4am , great eyepiece and awsome viewing .
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I had all the originals many years ago , Brian. IMHO, the new ones produce just as good an image. I think the reduction in size has been mostly brought about by the development of newer, more exotic glass types.
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Old 16-11-2012, 08:55 PM
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I hear you Larry , but there is something about grabbing my 13mm T1 and looking thru her or the other monster my 20mm T2 ,, the quality and build gives me a major thrill , not to mention the views ( non astronomers are impressed to the max! ) ,, ps. I am on the look out for a 2nd hand T4 31mm ,,, any sellers ???
Didnt think so .
But yea Laurie it takes a big scope / mount set up to handle the old Naglers , so yes mate for you fella's with smaller scopes the new T4-5's are made for you . .
21mm Ethos ? anyone ?
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Old 16-11-2012, 09:02 PM
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I have a T1 9mm on the way Morton , I will keep you posted as to how it performs for me in my Tak's when I have used it a bit .
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Yeah. Had an older 9mm a few years ago but didn't really care for it.
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Old 16-11-2012, 09:58 PM
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I hear you Larry , but there is something about grabbing my 13mm T1 and looking thru her or the other monster my 20mm T2 ,, the quality and build gives me a major thrill , not to mention the views ( non astronomers are impressed to the max! ) ,, ps. I am on the look out for a 2nd hand T4 31mm ,,, any sellers ???
Didnt think so .
But yea Laurie it takes a big scope / mount set up to handle the old Naglers , so yes mate for you fella's with smaller scopes the new T4-5's are made for you . .
21mm Ethos ? anyone ?
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I'm using a 26mm Nagler type 5 on my Stellarview 80mm and NG102mm. That's a big lump of glass, but they handle it ok. Used to have a 20mm Nagler-nice eyepiece!
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:19 PM
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the Nagler 26 for sale , there Laurie ? , didn't think so .. thats a rare eyepiece dont see them often . , but if you have to sell her ,,, .
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I'm using a 26mm Nagler type 5 on my Stellarview 80mm and NG102mm. That's a big lump of glass, but they handle it ok. Used to have a 20mm Nagler-nice eyepiece!
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:21 PM
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the Nagler 26 for sale , there Laurie ? , didn't think so .. thats a rare eyepiece dont see them often . , but if you have to sell her ,,, .
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Sorry Brian-I like it too much!
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:27 PM
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I hear you Brother , and one more thing ,

I enjoy our talks here on IIS Laurie . .
But if ever ???? the 26 needs to go , remember me .
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Sorry Brian-I like it too much!
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:35 PM
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haha. I'm eyeing up your 7mm!
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:38 PM
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Tag team thing happening here ?
Lets keep it up ...Morton .
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Old 16-11-2012, 10:46 PM
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Sorry boys! I won't be parting with any of them. I just love Naglers!
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Sorry boys! I won't be parting with any of them. I just love Naglers!
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How about that 14mm Denkmeier? I almost let this bugger get away, and pulled her back to reside in my case! LOL!

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