Jeff, I brought it throught these forums second hand, but it has not been used and was in new condition, didnt even need collimating, I paid $400.00 for it so it was an absolute bargain. Its a sky Watcher and came with the scope, finder scope and two eyepieces. Tonight was the firast time ive used it and after my initial amazement, unortunately it clouded over so i havent been able to use it again, but theres always tomorrow
