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Old 04-07-2013, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Nikolas View Post
SOOOOO dangerous this training.
Not all cars have all this technology and to do so in cars not fitted with this sort of technology is a disaster in the making.
Brake stomping is the worst thing one can do
Seriously I'd be asking for a refund and do a proper training course in all sorts of different cars abs and TC and non abs and nonTC
Really Nik?

When was the last time you drove a car that doesn't have ABS at the very least? Today's younger driver's will never drive a car without ABS, stability and traction control, EBD, power steering and brakes. Unless they get into classic and historic cars, in which case they'll probably know how to drive them.

What is dangerous is having all this technology and not knowing what to do with it.

On ANY car with ABS, stomping on the brake pedal is the best, most efficient way of stopping, it also allows you to steer the car whilst braking.

The course was run by the John Bowe school, one of the best and most respected driving schools in the country. It was designed to give you experience in emergency situations in the car you drive everyday, rather than confusing you with instruction on cars you will never drive. There was one vehicle there without ABS, it was one of the aforementioned SUVs, owned by a Govt department, the students in that vehicle were taught threshold braking. It was a modern vehicle BTW, another oversight by the motoring authorities to allow that vehicle on the road without the mandatory ABS that most passenger vehicles have to have.

From the MUARC study in 2004:
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In real world conditions, even an alert and experienced driver without ABS would find it difficult to match or improve on the performance of a typical driver with a modern ABS-equipped vehicle. ABS reduces chances of crashing, and/or the severity of impact. The recommended technique for non-expert drivers in an ABS-equipped car, in a typical full-braking emergency, is to press the brake pedal as firmly as possible and, where appropriate, to steer around obstructions. In such situations, ABS will significantly reduce the chances of a skid and subsequent loss of control.
As the theme of this thread is "most drivers (other than myself, of course) are muppets", this is solid advice.

Cheers
Stuart
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