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get the telrad! , i had heard so many good comments about it i had alook at one today and bought one tried it out tonight on my 12" dob (saturn looked great), i am so pleased at how easy it makes starhopping compared to any other finder, keeping my 8 x50mm croshair finder on the dob allso, its nice if you want to get a closer look that is probly the only drawback of the telrad but put it with a finderscope with some mag and its one hell of a starhopping system.
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