thanks killswitch. Yea I have a cheap 10x50 Digitor Binoculars that I had picked up from DickSmith a while ago (dont ever get this.. they have a ruby orange tint which makes the stars appear in spread colors

) and though they are good for the price I paid ($50) .. they are unable to resolve jupiter .. let alone its moons

and they are quite hard with just handhelding.. esp cause of the shakes at that mag