Hi Paul, interested you think it's as faint as near mag 4? It's clearly naked-eye low in the twilight from my Melbourne location - I don't think I could see mag 4 stars that low in that direction even in full darkness looking west over the city! That deep in twilight, to me, it must be rather brighter. In reference to Deneb Kaitos (Beta Ceti, mag 2.0), which is a bit higher in the twilight, I'd say it was definitely fainter than that star, but within a magnitude in brightness. Can't see it being fainter than 3 at the moment. But of course I may be wrong, and regardless it's a very pretty thing in the evening sky! A treat in the big binoculars too with a degree of tail. Hope you and everyone else has clear skies to see it before it heads north.
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