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Old 25-02-2013, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hans Tucker View Post
I wonder how the F-35 project with all it's problems compares to the European Typhoon Eurofighter project which also had issues with a blown out budget and extensive delays...in the end they got an aircraft.
I've never suggested the Eurofighter, since it's current estimated flyaway cost is about the same as the JSF. But it is a good air superiority fighter by all accounts, and, in exercises, is rumoured to have some kills even against F22s. Estimated cost for an export Su30 is about one-third to one-half the cost of the Eurofighter or JSF - that's it's main attraction, given it's performance. But, as I said in an earlier post, I think the time for these options came and went a while back.

The F-35 blowouts are proportionally worse (at a given point in development). That stings more because one of the main selling points of the F-35 was that it was supposed to be built in a cost-controlled manner and to schedule.

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Going back in history I believe the Grumman Lunar Lander had 7 year development schedule and an initial budget of $500M which blew out to $2.2B..and that is back in the 1960's.
They weren't building ~2500 of them and selling them to partners! Key points are that the LEM was delivered quickly and on-time, met its goals and was a bespoke build in uncharted territory.

There's a saying in projects: "Cost, Quality, Schedule - pick any two". The F-35 is failing on all three!

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