Well I got it!!
A lot more difficult than the morning image, had more twighlight and moonlight!
This is another 28mm widefield at f/4.5, 3 x 40 sec exposures. I actually had 15 frames but these were the best. I tried stacking all, but it washed out panstarrs.
It's taken a few hours to get the final image reasonable.
The image is tagged to save guessing, and a finder chart to show panstarrs.
I'm a happy chappy now

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Cheers,
Justin.