Hello and thanks for the replies,
A downgrade as an upgrade, not something I would have figured

. I checked out the istar website too MattT. Scopes looked very nice. Specially the 140 Apo, Haven't been in astro too long but $3000 grand for a 140 Apo seems pretty reasonable huh?
About your ep's, do you rate xw's as better than the ES's or are they used for different purposes?
Barx, Q's about the ethois/naglers that you have/had? When viewing dso's do you get a little sidetracked with the "Total" view or are they still easy to use when honing in on the detail of what your looking at? Do you lose any light or detail with an eyepiece that has so many elements or are they that good that it is not something you need to worry about when thinking of purchasing? Sorry but my chances of looking through one are zip at the moment. I wouldn't mind adding one or two later on for bigger DSO stuff. What I'm afraid of is that I'll get caught up in the scene and possibly lose the detail I really want to find.
Miaplacidus I think we all need to cheer and thank Mr Dobson. His idea has opened the night sky to so many people.

If there's a hall of fame or something for the advancement of amatuer astronomers I think he would have to definately be there.
Thanks guys to for the history part. It gives me some sort of idea of where you guys have been and gotten to and it has given me some ideas for how I would like to structure my progression in astronomy. I want this to be a journey and kind of like martial arts I would like to study and master my belt before moving on. But to move on someone needs to now where they are going. And in saying that we all need a grandmaster to teach us how to do it first!
So Cheers and thanks again
Simmo