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Originally Posted by Rodstar
You have a lot more faith than I do. I cannot get past the question of where the ingredients of the universe itself came from if there is no Creator.
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Rodstar, whether you believe in a creator or not is up to you. All the stuff Argo Navis is talking about is testable by scientific method. The creator is not.
What existed before the big bang? Maybe something, maybe nothing. We don't know. It is beyond out ability to detect, and possibly beyond our ability to comprehend. The concept of infinity is not easy to grasp... it has no beginning and no end. We have developed minds that like to think in finite terms: boundaries and "starts" and "ends".
As long as our scientific methods and tools are limited to this side of the big bang we won't know what was the other side (if there was anything). Does that really matter?
Not sure what the initial point of this thread was... it almost seems like I'm looking at the end of a partial thread, so I don't know what if anything went before... (bit like the big bang really!

), but I agree with Argo Navis' points - well expressed in a nut shell.
I will confess to being an atheist, if it is relevant, but please don't let me or anyone else tell you what to believe. I am happy to accept the scientific method as a sound, repeatable way to develop knowledge. I am also happy to accept the limitations of our (and particularly MY) knowledge.
I find joy in learning... and intellectual exploration.
Al.