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Originally Posted by Rodstar
You have a lot more faith than I do. I cannot get past the question of where the ingredients of the universe itself came from if there is no Creator.
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Well, where did the Creator come from? Is the creator material, or supernatural?
It appears to me that you either accept that the hydrogen, helium and lithium was created in the Big Bang, other elements higher on the periodic table were created in the nuclear furnaces of stars and seeded into space from supernova explosions, and organic chemistry (and the possibility of life) is widespread throughout the cosmos, OR you propose a supernatural explanation for the Universe.
The first explanation accords with known observations and is testable by being falsifiable (ie can be shown to be incorrect through observational evidence and/or experimentation), the second requires a lot of belief that appears contrary to the observational evidence.
Accepting that the Universe arose from a known physical process does not preclude the existence of a God, who would necessarily inhabit a spiritual realm separate from the physical Universe that we inhabit. However this is all speculation. I can speculate that humans are like spiders who know all about their web, but nothing a a bigger reality beyond it. Science cannot test this type of speculation. It will forever stay in the realm of belief and opinion. The history of science has established that the only way to learn about our Universe is through observations and experimentation.