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Originally Posted by Argonavis
well, not too many Buddhists have started any wars recently......
John Dobson believes that the Universe is a Veil hiding a more fundamantal reality. I can accept this, we have a facinating and astounding Universe governed by physical laws, which may (or may not) be just a veil. This accepts the physical reality of the Univese that we inhabit and perceive. But when some of the more fundamentalist members of the abrahamic religions try to tear down my veil, and put their own in its place...not happy.
Interestingly, I understand that the Islamic world does not have a problem with evolution.
..what makes astronomy so facinating and astounding is the contemplation of those vast cold dark spaces, overwhelmingly indifferent, the universe doesn't care what we believe...
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Don't you think we are the Universe contemplating itself? It would be tragic if we were the only planet with sentient life. When I say sentient life it is not only human as other species have understanding we don't have. I find it difficult to believe that our planet is the only place with 'life'. The Universe is so vast that it's size is incomprehensible to any puny human mind.
Science allows us to to crawl out of the primordial slime of ignorance and have a better understanding of how the Universe works. So far it has been the best way to understand reality.
Superstition was the method to 'explain' how things worked in the past. All things not understood were put into the realm of mythical beings that somehow controlled everything.
The main failing of ID as a scientific theory is that it puts all the unknowns back into the lap of a mythical designer. Another mythical being based on superstition.
Religion is not about the physical, it is about our inner life. You cannot measure love,hate,loyalty,wisdom,art,contem plation etc on a balance. Religion has a valid place as belief system so we all get on better with each other. We as a group set rules about living so we are all better off. It is when unscrupulous men misuse power for their own advantage that it all goes off the rails.
You only have to look through history to see the hypocracy and downright evil perpetrated by some humans in the name of their imaginary friend. The major reason they could get away with it was because the populace were kept or were ignorant.
This 'modern' version of creationism (ID) is exactly that, simple answers to complex questions to not scare the populace or keep them unquestioning. An uninformed populace is far more compliant than an educated one. Hence the purges (killing) of the intelligentsia in various regimes even in recent times.
There are only two 'sins' in my belief system, hypocracy and ignorance. ID fills both bills.
Sorry if I have offended anyone. But this is the best model of the Universe I have at the moment with my limited abilities. I wish I could be as certain as some others who have 'all' the answers.
Bert