Hi Draco,
What's your budget?
I have created a thread for a complete (in my opinion) package to buy for a beginner that will suit for years!
Take a look
here and see if this suits you.
You need to avoid the phrase "good cheap telescopes" as this will ONLY get you into trouble. You need to spend probably $400-$500 on a good quality dobsonian around the 8" (200mm) size as this is pretty much the "starter" telescope of choice here on Ice In Space.
Check out
http://www.andrewscom.com.au/site-section-10.htm and look at the GSO 8" dobsonian for $449, a GREAT place to start. Also,
http://www.bintel.com.au/Telescopes/...oductview.aspx for the same type for $499 (actually from the same manufacturer, just Bintel Branded)
Of course, Ice Trade here is a great place to pick up a second hand bargain on a scope too....
, check this one out, which might still be available??? for only $300!! and a quality brand (same as Skywatcher)
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ad.php?t=94746
to IIS by the way. You will like it here.
Cheers
Chris