i was definately on the galaxy tonight under nice seeing and dark skies..with my 14"sct using sky safari to control.galaxy was faint with no visable core and ranging in mag 101x up to around 300x i thought i was able to see a small very faint very averted vision speck over an hour of observing it was not 100 percent positive

but hay it's been a nice try maybe the 14" is just not quiet enough....
i use sky safari+ when manually moving my 16" dob with setting circles and wonder weather the gal is just to faint for a positive position and sight...
i thought the 14" with a focal length 3556mm may have helped me...bugger
pete could you try to find one a little more brighter for use visual people

