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I don't for a minute want to dismiss anything anyone's said or offend but this really sounds like a focus issue more than anything. I've never collimated newt I've owned and can always see Saturn. I can't imagine a scope could ever be that far out but still show pinpoint stars.....????
If you are getting stars in focus then surely it's well enough collimated to show saturn with a refocus....?
just my 2 cents worth
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