sorry stu, ving and I have been driven underground!!!
we are currently discussing cheshire and sighttubes and the value of different vairities. To keep our posts down and to make sure we don't spam (oops there is that word), we will be doing all discussions in private mail. everyone is invited of course, but there is a 5 recipient post limit so the next three to join us in private message disccussions about astronomy wins a new rcx400.
this is a good solution, i still get to laugh at vings sharp and left field wit, and i still get him to giggle so he spits his chips over his computer. (hmmm i thought food was not allowed in a library???)