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Originally Posted by ving
see now i was going to sugest a celestron ultima as an equal to TV...
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Last time I checked, Celestron eyepieces suffer horrendous mark-up in the Australian market. A couple of years ago I paid $240 for a 12.5mm Ultima.

AFAIK, nobody imports the equivalents such as Orion Ultrascopic, Parks Gold series, so in the local market it seems the TV plossl is the best value for this eyepiece class.
Anthony, what the vixen lv has over the tv plossl is 20mm eye relief. This is something that plossl type eyepieces cant match in the shorter focal lengths.
How much eye relief is desired is always a personal choice and nobody can tell you how much ER
you desire. I personally wouldnt use a plossl shorter than 10-12mm and would barlow a longer FL one to keep a reasonable eye relief.