know all that traveller done it all but scope still wont balance. I had it in the past where it stayed put no matter what possy the scope was in. But i recently added a new 80mm stellarvue finder scope with a 90 degree angle and a 2" 90 degree angle for the scope a qsi ccd cam and a new 21mm televue ethos eyepiece all that extra weight has thrown the balance out of kelter and in odd places around the scope so i cant get true balance without extra weight elsewhere on the scope.