I have been watching this thread for a while and it is fascinating to see how a little comment i made changed the discussion subject so much.
I am surprised by how much controversy is there about "hackers", all the definitions that make little sense.
when i originally said that I usually salute hackers, the hackers i had in mind were people like Anonymous, and Lucsuz and similar groups, who actually campaign for freedom of information and the internet, as for people who cause damage just for fun, i think they are just smart idiots no more.