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Wow guys thnx for the input at the moment i mainly use my 4 1/4" scope mainly for planetary observing on a good night I can manage to get a decent focus on the lagoon nebula but only the stars seem to show with little nebulosity and the same goes with the orion nebula would love to in time upgrade to a better scope so i can then try my hand at astrophotography but until then am enjoying using my little scope
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