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Originally Posted by astroron
Carl, show us real evidence 
As a dedicated observer for over twenty five years and having spent great deal of my life outside wether it be in the military or other pursuit's I have Yet to see anything that could not be explaned by rational thought.
As has been noted many times, there has not as far as I know any clear unambiguous photo,image,video or film that is clear,of a UFO that has been proven to be true.
I have yet yet to be convinced of any ET's.
Read "The Demon Haunted World" by Carl Sagen for a good explaination of the UFO phenomena.
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Not up to me to show you any evidence....there's more than enough to trawl through on the net if you want to look for it. Have you even looked for yourself or read any books on the subject from credible authors??. It would be better if you did read some of the books as there's a lot of garbage on the net. In any case, how are you going to prove the truth of anything with UFO's. Do you honestly think that unless it crashed that you were going to get any, so called, "hard proof". Even then, the military would be all over it like a swarm of bees and no one else would get a look in. Use some common sense!!!. As for any, clear unambiguous pictures, there are quite a few around. A lot more than you might believe. Many of them can be readily had off the net or found in any credible book about the subject.
I've read all of Sagan's books....despite the fact that he was a good scientist, I would take anything he said on subjects such as this with a grain of salt. He is just as much in the dark as anyone else and all the pontification and scientific posturing about their impossibility or unlikelihood is just a symptom of his ignorance. He can only go by what he knows scientifically, and by what he (and others) want to accept as being a part of the scientific paradigm. He also had a reputation and career to protect. No scientist with Carl's reputation or fame would risk going against what he believes in, or what he professes to acknowledge as the scientific "truth". It would be both professional and personal "suicide".
You want the names of a few books, let me know and I can give them to you. Or at least find them on an online bookstore and point you to there.